On Friday 27 April 2007 03:18, Felix Miata wrote:
> Tarball? No thanks. I never see binary attachments to emails, and
> apparently neither does anyone searching the opensuse mailing list archive:
        Oh, what a pain... compressed bz tarballs are way safer than some 
pics... and 
those get through... 

# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2007-04-26T14:05:45-0500.
#
# Version: 7.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002
#
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (7.1)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

Section "Files"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/Type1"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xtest"
  FontPath     "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
  InputDevices "/dev/ttyS0"
  InputDevices "/dev/ttyS1"
  InputDevices "/dev/ttyS2"
  InputDevices "/dev/ttyS3"
  InputDevices "/dev/ttyS4"
  InputDevices "/dev/ttyS5"
  InputDevices "/dev/ttyS6"
  InputDevices "/dev/ttyS7"
  InputDevices "/dev/ttyS8"
  InputDevices "/dev/psaux"
  InputDevices "/dev/logibm"
  InputDevices "/dev/sunmouse"
  InputDevices "/dev/atibm"
  InputDevices "/dev/amigamouse"
  InputDevices "/dev/atarimouse"
  InputDevices "/dev/inportbm"
  InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"
  InputDevices "/dev/mouse"
  InputDevices "/dev/usbmouse"
  InputDevices "/dev/adbmouse"
  InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"
  InputDevices "/dev/input/event0"
  InputDevices "/dev/pointer0"
  InputDevices "/dev/pointer1"
  InputDevices "/dev/pointer2"
  InputDevices "/dev/pointer3"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
  Option       "AllowMouseOpenFail"
EndSection

Section "Module"
  Load         "dbe"
  Load         "type1"
  Load         "freetype"
  Load         "extmod"
  Load         "glx"
  Load         "v4l"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
  Driver       "kbd"
  Identifier   "Keyboard[0]"
  Option       "Protocol" "Standard"
  Option       "XkbLayout" "us"
  Option       "XkbModel" "pc104"
  Option       "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
  Driver       "mouse"
  Identifier   "Mouse[1]"
  Option       "Buttons" "5"
  Option       "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
  Option       "Name" "ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse"
  Option       "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
  Option       "Vendor" "Sysp"
  Option       "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
  DisplaySize  310 230
  HorizSync    30-62
  Identifier   "Monitor[0]"
  ModelName    "RADIUS RAD-5S"
  Option       "DPMS"
  VendorName   "RDS"
  VertRefresh  43-75
  UseModes     "Modes[0]"
EndSection


Section "Modes"
  Identifier   "Modes[0]"
  Modeline      "1024x768" 79.52 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 801
  Modeline      "1024x768" 67.48 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 797
  Modeline      "800x600" 47.53 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 626
  Modeline      "800x600" 40.19 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 623
  Modeline      "640x480" 29.84 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 501
  Modeline      "640x480" 25.10 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 498
EndSection


Section "Screen"
  DefaultDepth 24
  SubSection "Display"
    Depth      15
    Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
  EndSubSection
  SubSection "Display"
    Depth      16
    Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
  EndSubSection
  SubSection "Display"
    Depth      24
    Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
  EndSubSection
  SubSection "Display"
    Depth      32
    Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
  EndSubSection
  SubSection "Display"
    Depth      8
    Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
  EndSubSection
  Device       "Device[0]"
  Identifier   "Screen[0]"
  Monitor      "Monitor[0]"
EndSection


Section "Device"
  BoardName    "GeForce FX 5200 (0x0322)"
  BusID        "1:0:0"
  Driver       "nv"
  Identifier   "Device[0]"
  VendorName   "NVidia"
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier   "Layout[all]"
  InputDevice  "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
  InputDevice  "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
  Option       "Clone" "off"
  Option       "Xinerama" "off"
  Screen       "Screen[0]"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Group      "video"
    Mode       0660
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
EndSection

---------------------SaX.log----------------------------------------------

26-Apr 14:04:56 <I> Initializing...
26-Apr 14:04:58 <I> [ Sysp: Mouse detection data
        Mouse0    =>  Protocol   : explorerps/2
        Mouse0    =>  Device     : /dev/input/mice
        Mouse0    =>  Buttons    : 5
        Mouse0    =>  Wheel      : 1
        Mouse0    =>  Emulate    : 0
        Mouse0    =>  Name       : ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse
        Mouse0    =>  VendorID   : 0x0210
        Mouse0    =>  DeviceID   : 0x0013
        Mouse0    =>  Profile    : <undefined>
]
26-Apr 14:04:59 <I> [ Sysp: Keyboard detection data
        Keyboard0 =>  XkbModel   : pc104
        Keyboard0 =>  XkbLayout  : us
]
26-Apr 14:04:59 <I> [ Sysp: Server detection data
        Card0     =>  BusId      : 0x1
        Card0     =>  SlotId     : 0x00
        Card0     =>  FuncId     : 0x0
        Card0     =>  Vendor     : NVidia
        Card0     =>  Device     : GeForce FX 5200 (0x0322)
        Card0     =>  VID        : 0x10de
        Card0     =>  DID        : 0x0322
        Card0     =>  Module     : nv
        Card0     =>  BusType    : AGP
        Card0     =>  Detected   : 1
        Card0     =>  Flag       : DEFAULT
        Card0     =>  SUB-VID    : 0x0000
        Card0     =>  SUB-DID    : 0x0000
        Card0     =>  DrvProfile : Depth24,NVidia
]
26-Apr 14:05:00 <I> [ Sysp: XStuff detection data
        Card0     =>  DDC        : RDS1559
        Card0     =>  Name       : Radius Rad-5s
        Card0     =>  Vendor     : RDS
        Card0     =>  Primary    : 01-00-0
        Card0     =>  Chipset    : <undefined>
        Card0     =>  Vsync      : 75
        Card0     =>  Hsync      : 62
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 640 480 28 60
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 640 480 34 72
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 640 480 36 75
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 800 600 33 56
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 800 600 36 60
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 800 600 43 72
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 800 600 45 75
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 1024 768 46 60
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 1024 768 53 70
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 1024 768 57 75
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 1024 768 46 60
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 1024 768 57 75
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 800 600 36 60
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 800 600 45 75
        Card0     =>  Vesa       : 1024 768 62 75
        Card0     =>  Dacspeed   : 220
        Card0     =>  Memory     : 131072
        Card0     =>  Current    : 01-00-0
        Card0     =>  RawDef     : None
        Card0     =>  Option     : None
        Card0     =>  Extension  : None
        Card0     =>  Module     : nv
        Card0     =>  Display    : CRT
        Card0     =>  Size       : 31x23
]
26-Apr 14:05:03 <I> [ Sysp: 3D detection data
        Card3D0   =>  Install    : <none>
        Card3D0   =>  Remove     : <none>
        Card3D0   =>  Packages   : <none>
        Card3D0   =>  Active     : 0
        Card3D0   =>  Answer     : no
        Card3D0   =>  ScriptReal : <none>
        Card3D0   =>  ScriptSoft : <none>
        Card3D0   =>  Flag       : NVDummy
]

-------------- background-------------------------

hi folks,           2007/04/27

This xorg.conf file was sax generated at install time. The card
and the monitor were probed, correctly identified, and properly
configured without question on the first try.

The rub is that I had to *reinstall* the system in order for sax
to *see* and configure the KDS Rad display... always the display
complained of horz sync out of range... way too high.

A little background... the machine has an nvidia geforce card and
was originally attached to a Samsung 713V TFT monitor. We swapped
in the permanent monitor KDS Radius Rad-5S 15" 1024x768 30-62 and
could not get the system to recognize the monitor, nor could we
get sax2 to even start. Always the monitor complained about the
horz sync being too high.

So, there appears to be something going on at install time that is
quite ( better ) from (post install) reconfig. Folks play havoc
trying to reconfigure X video. Something needs to be improved so
that the system identifies a hardware change (plug and play) for a
new video card (or monitor) so that sax2 does her thing without any
manual fuss.

Thanks folks.


Ps   The xorg.conf & SaX.log files are submitted hoping they will be
     helpful identifying why this monitor was so hard to configure
     manually.



-- 
Kind regards,

M Harris     <><
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