On Tuesday 01 May 2007, Siegfried Wolkenstein wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 May 2007 13:52:32 peter nikolic wrote:
> > That sounds very much like a failing hard drive rather than an software
> > problem maybe you should get a little more intensive and give that hard
> > disc a real goo test  cus it sounds like a garbadge can merchant  ..
> >
> > Pete
>
> Hello Pete,
>
> This (hard drive failure) is what I thought as well. But consider this:
>
> Kaffeine is recording in this home partition happily even after the crash.
> So writing to the partition is still possible. It's just opening and/or
> closing of inodes or files that doesn't work anymore.... Also other
> partitions lying on the same hard drive work perfectly (reading is doing
> well (executing ls and so on)).
>
> How is this possible... Processes that wait for one specific broken sector
> get stuck in kernelspace and thus suspending or killing is impossible?
> Pretty poor behaviour I must say (to be honest I couldn't do it any better
> (kernelprogrammingwise)).
>
> But still, how can i verify that it indeed is a hard drive problem? It
> could be a reiserfs problem, couldn't it?
>
> How can I test my hard drive thoroughly? How can I tell the manufacturer of
> the drive that it is broken? They are going to test it and they won't find
> anything wrong.
>
> I tried to delete some files and immediately afterwards the crash
> happend... After the reboot deleting the same files did work without a
> fuss. And I can imagine the files still dwell on the same sectors or on the
> same location...
>
> off topic:
> I am very pleased with this mailing list... We seem to get closer to the
> problem, thank you very much! I can imagine this is a rather boring
> problem, because it could be some sort of "personal" thing not concerning
> SUSE (or Linux in general).
> But still it would be very kind of the kernel or the programmes to provide
> the user with some useful information, when something like this happens.
> This is what we can extract of this matter, just as an excuse we don't
> waste all our time on this rubbish ;-)
> To this is of course vital... so thanks again!
>

Hi .

I think the best way would be to get the makers test suit off there web site ,

Which filing system are you using ?  I use Reiser and find it solid untill you 
get a slight problem with the disc then the fun starts  and these crashes you 
are getting are typical  BUT having said that i have EXT3 on the laptop and i 
am just waitingfor an excuse to can it and get back to sanity of Reiser 

Cheers     

Pete .


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