On Monday 21 May 2007 8:51 pm, Pueblo Native wrote:
> JB2 wrote:
> > On Mon 21 May 07 14:01, Brad Bourn wrote:
> >   
> >> woot!
> >>
> >> last word
> >>     
> >
> >   No, you twit, this is the last word...  you are now <plonked>
> >
> >   
> 
> Oh no, Brad, JB2 has plonked you, what  will you ever do?  Do you just
> drown your sorrows in liquor, or throw yourself in front of an oncoming
> semi.  Oh the sheer horror of it all.  Oh the humanity.
> 
> You like.  It's the most dramatic I could think of on short notice.


I wish more of the complainers would "plonk" me.  Funny thing is, they've used 
that as the last word, most powerfull threat, "oh, no, what will I ever do" 
type of plugging ears and humming reaction to me.  

And the truth of the matter is, that there are some people that actually have 
knowledge about all things suse.  They even (while complaining about OT) 
contribute to what they complain about.  I subscribe to the list to learn and 
help.  Those that don't want my help because they are too worried about 
controlling the list by threats and name calling instead of leading by 
example doesn't bother me.  Those that won't help me because of same, 
wouldn't be a good lasting relationship either.  However, I can forgive them 
their shortcomings and often I will only click on their responses to get some 
of that knowledge.  But more and more, the only knowledge I get from them is 
how to abuse and belittle other posters because they don't follow what they 
think is necessary for posting to the list.  Eventually I get frustrated 
enough that the only thing these people seem to be contributing is 
conforming, all or nothing, zero tolerance, our way or the highway attitudes 
that would seem to be just the opposite of what an open community of folks 
with different backgrounds, beliefs, habits, education, experience, etc. 
stands for, or gets its benefit from.

And it seems to be the same people.  People that would be smart enough to 
filter out such posts.  So that obviously isn't the point.  The point seems 
to be controll.


So, if the first thing you look for in a post is conformity, plonk me PLEASE!  
I don't conform, I innovate.


If all top posted responses elicit an immediate critique, plonk me PLEASE! 
I believe there is a place for them, and I for one appreciate a quick one line 
answer to a well defined syntax question.


Bottom line, think for yourself.   You list cops should start your own secret 
list that nobody that doesn't conform can subscribe to.  Of course you all 
know everthing that ever was and is (naturally, since you are soon adept at 
knowing what is OT and what isn't), so I don't know what you'll do when you 
don't have innovators to chide, but some people like the ol' circle jerk.



B-)


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