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Martin Vuk wrote:


> Isn't KIWI(http://en.opensuse.org/KIWI) supposed to be the tool for
> that purpose? It can be used to make Xen images, so I see no reason
> why it could not make normal disk images.
> 

KIWI seems to be targeted at getting boot images on various removable
media. To some extent XEN creates a similarly dynamic environment. This
is not system cloning, but has very similar requirements.

Binary disk images for system cloning are IMHO problematic in that the
end product tends to be monolithic, to make a small change one has to
rebuild the whole thing. A further weakness is that if a disk image gets
damaged you can loose the whole thing, an installation rpm based
approach means you have the option of repairing just the damaged
component in a clean manner.

(GHOST in particular suffers from this problem, 8 CDs into rebuild,
sorry no 9 is corrupt ... no cigar ... but smoke will be seen :-)...
)....


> Anyway, I use autoyast for bootstraping the initial system and than
> use puppet(http://reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/) for additional
> configuration. It takes a bit of learning, but it pays off after a
> while.
>

The first is the target for me, a base system build image. Combined with
the regular backup of working data should allow rapid recovery from
failure. If I add a new system component configuration can be deployed
as either an additional custom rpm in (or separate from) the base image.

puppet seems to do what Zenworks does. However, Zenworks was (and I
expect still is), closely tied to NDS tools and functionality and does
not really require learning a scripting language to deploy. Such tools
are useful for the after care and day to day phase i.e. for distributing
and maintaining applications dynamically.

For my (and most people running small setups) this approach is probably
overkill. For educational lab scenarios and medium to large businesses
it is a worthwhile strategy. Online update (when functioning) is pretty
effective in this role in the small environment...

This is a useful contribution. System cloning, System Restore and backup
are different but inter-related activities and disk cloning and dynamic
system maintenance are useful technologies to support these activities.
(One should not confuse the hammer with the house however :-) ).


> Martin
> 

<snipped for sanity, see original, top post mangled flow somewhat :-) >

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