Thu, 12 Jul 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> On Thursday 12 July 2007, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> > Of course, at $DAYJOB, I do /not/ let company PCs have unrestricted
> > access to high ports on the outside, better safe than sorry with
> > Windows PCs, dealing with company data and passwords etc...
> 
> Really?
> So something as simple as web browsing requires all sorts of 
> proxying, and every internet oriented package needs to be proxied
> or SOCKSified?

No proxy, just a limited set of ports that I allow to connect to, like
web, pop3(s), imap(s), vpn, ftp etc., and some special ports for accounting
and airline reservation packages (but only to and from specific
hosts).

> Sounds like a make work project to me.

Not really, in the logs I can see hundreds of attempts to ports on
the outside being dropped every day, but unless it's really
work-related, no-one complains if e.g. their internet-radio
connection or other non-essential things do not work.

With Shorewall it's a matter of minutes to add an ALLOW if needed,
but that doesn't happen more than once in a (long) while. You'd be
surpised with how little a normal company can do Internet-wise.

> We have fairly old releases of MSIE running in hundreds of machines
> each running a lightweight antivirus and SpyBot Search and Destroy.
> Works.

We focus on our work, rather than the weaknesses of the OS on our
PCs.

Theo
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