Jacky Woo wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Billie Walsh wrote:
On 08/13/2007 Basil Chupin wrote:
(SuSE is going from bad to worse at each "improvement" "release"
since Novell bought the German company. I downloaded the CD of 10.3
Beta 1 together with the CD of the ADDON-NON OSS Bi-Arch and there
is NO way that I can install all the files/applications: there is
no Midnight Commander, no kernel source, no pico or nano, no
kradio, et alia.)
That's why it's called "beta".
No, that is not why it is called a BETA.
Furthermore, we are not talking about a Beta 1 release of a version 1
but of version 10.3.
Now, somewhere in between a version 1 and a version 10.3 someone,
anyone, with a bit of brain and nous and know-how would have figured
out on what has to be put into place, and how software should be
tested by staff being paid on writing it and administrating its
implementation and release on the open market, to have the software
in a state where it CAN be called a BETA and have people spend their
time and money in downloading the product to be able to make
judgements about its efficacy and offer suggestions on how to improve
it.
Cheers.
I don't think it make any sense for us to expect a beta version to be
perfect. It's always buggy before the ultimate completion. OS worked
out by MS can even be buggy anyway.
Firstly, I, nor anyone else who knows "what it is all about", expect
that a Beta "to be perfect".
Secondly, talking about MS is a total and a useless side-issue of no
import to anyone, or anything being discussed here, about openSuse 10.3.
I don't give a rat's tail about MS or anything associated with it!
Basically, I don't see it any good for people who are not pros in OS
and programming field to use BETA version (any kind of beta),
especially when we are talking about Linux Distros. They are not MS
product and much more complicated.
Again you raise the MS crap. Are you obsessed with MS? Is it because
Novell got into bed with MS? And why is a "MS product...much more
complicated [than Linux Distros]"?
And why are you so condenscending to state that "I don't see it any good
for people who are not pros in OS and programming field to use BETA
version (any kind of beta), especially when we are talking about Linux
Distros"?
Are you stating that the Novell people should not be releasing Beta
versions unless they are downloaded by "pros" (I take it that you mean
that you are one such "pro" worthy of downloading Betas)?
So if you are a pro or a programmer, then you'd better stay cool and
find out that bug which annoyed you so much and then report it or even
mend it.
If you are not, just like most people, why don't you go back to
openSUSE 10.2?
I am using 10.2 so I don't have to "go back to it".
And, like others before you, you have the same attitude about people
pointing out problems with an OS, which they considered to be the best
available, with your comment, "If you are not [a pro or programmer],
just like most people, why don't you go back to openSUSE 10.2".
I AM like most people who would try to use SuSE (and have used it for
years).
People in the advertising industry know that for every BAD complaint
there are something like (?)20 other people who get to know about the
negative report about a product. Bad news spreads FAST.
Nobody here is trying to generate bad reports but rather point out that
there are issues which need to be addressed. The management of SuSE need
to face up to the issues. They have the resources to do so.
I will add this though: I would be extremely disappointed if the
original people of the SuSE company who got bought out by the American
company, Novell, have anything negative to contribute to the problems
facing SuSE since it was acquired by Novell. They have families to feed
and mortgages to pay. I understand their dilemmas.
But don't give me the crap about being "a pro or a programmer, then
you'd better stay cool".
Cheers.
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