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Gavin Chester wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 13:40 +0100, G T Smith wrote:
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>> Robert Smits wrote:
>>> I'm running OpenSuse 10.2 on one of my desktops, which also has a dvd 
>>> writer.
>>>
>>> Lately, whenever I burn a data DVD with K3B, the program goes through all 
>>> the 
>>> motions as if it's correctly burning and verifying the DVD. Yet when I 
>>> examine the disk that's been burned, Konqueror tells me the disk I just 
>>> burned is blank. 
>>>

<snip>

>>> Bob
>> I would personally use K3b to build an ISO image but use wodim/growisofs
>> to burn it, for some reason K3b is not entirely sane in interaction with
>> this new set of tools.
> 
> Not heard of that problem on any other list. Can't deny it maybe your
> experience, but I think you describe personal preference rather than
> genuine fault with k3b.
> 

When wodim rather than cdrecord was adopted quite a few people had
problem with wodim and K3b... Some re-installed the original cdrecord
software to deal with the problems that they had with the wodim/K3b
combination ... K3b has been unreliable for me for quite some time for
the actual burning process ( I have been working on some perl stuff
which seems to promising for managing wodim/mount/growisofs to burn data
without too much grief)....


>> DVD-R is the least data friendly of the DVD formats, DVD+R and DVD+RW
>> are more reliable in my experience. 
> 
> Again personal preference not fact. I and others on other lists have
> found the opposite - DVD+R just won't work on my systems - laptop and
> desktop. 
>   

Read carefully "least" does not mean not... these are hardware
restrictions not media restrictions...


>> DVD-R is really more aimed at
>> multimedia use... 
> 
> It's a myth that one media suits music, another data, another video.
> Data is data. DVD-R is probably the most compatible format for all types
> of hardware because I believe it's older than the others by about 5
> years. Therefore, s/ware and h/ware has had more time to learn about
> DVD-R.
> 

There are some significant differences in the low level structure which
make DVD-R a little less suitable for Data usage... (though to what
extent this is FUD from the DVD+R camp is a moot point)... I did spend
some time looking into this. I refer you to
the article below as a starting point....


http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Why-DVDRW-is-superior-to-DVD-RW

there is also some interesting data on the DVD+RW alliance site on this.

http://www.dvdrw.com/information/DVDRW_Physical_Format_Explanation.pdf




>> Try burning an image with growisofs from the command
>> line and take note any messages (to avoid more coasters, use RW format
>> for the test :-) )...
> 
> Good advice for fault-finding. The only time I have had the 'coaster'
> experience described by the OP was when the media was no good. Change
> brands of dvd disc and definitely avoid 'no-name' cheap discs - they're
> false economy.
> 

Agreed...


> Gavin. 
> 


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