** Reply to message from Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 01 Nov 2007
17:50:48 -0400


> On 2007/11/01 23:06 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman apparently typed:
> 
> > In the interest of saving time, which is at a premium right now, if I can
> > retrieve a few things that are not backed up, I think it might be best to 
> > just
> > reinstall v10..3 from scratch. I have a Ubuntu v6.06LTS disk, and as I
> > understand it I can boot with it, and gain access to the /home directory 
> > where
> > those small things reside. Or I could do the same with a Rescue boot from 
> > the
> > 10.3 DVD. Can I impose on you, or Joe, or anybody else, to let me run past 
> > you
> > the actions I need to do to accomplish the retrieval of these files?
> 
> > Joe Morris gave me some hints about using Rescue for a different purpose:
> 
> >>> mount the root partition of the drive, i.e. mount /dev/md0 /mnt
> >>> (Not sure if these are still needed in 10.3 or not)
> >>> mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc
> >>> mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
> >>> mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys
> >>> cd mnt
> >>> chroot /mnt
> 
> > That was for using YaST. Which of the above "mount" lines are necessary for 
> > the
> > different purpose I have now?
> 
> /dev/md0 above does not apply to you. That's his root, corresponding to your
> /dev/sda6. mnt is an arbitrary mount point. You may choose anything you like,
> but if what you choose as a mount point doesn't already exist, you must first
> create it with mkdir. Otherwise, that's a special series of commands
> prerequisite to an attempt to reinstall Grub or otherwise succeed at a
> complex rescue boot. For simply retrieving a few files most are not
> necessary. You might need to run them all if you want to run mc for managing
> the files you want to retrieve. I suspect the rescue media may not have mc.
> 
> > Now I want to access the /home directory and also a JFS partition that I use
> > for transfer between SuSE and OS/2. In normal SuSE operation, that partition
> > is,  "/mnt/transfer", so I would add the line "mount -o bind /mnt
> > /mnt/transfer".  Have I generalized correctly from Joe's notes?
> 
> I didn't know it was possible to access OS/2 JFS partitions from a Linux
> boot, so can't help with that approach. However, there's nothing to stop you
> from using some of that abundance of freespace for a temporary partition that
> either could access, either FAT32 or HPFS or ext3. From SUSE you can read and
> write to HPFS, and I think this is also possible from Ubuntu.
> 
> Once booted to Linux, whether SUSE rescue or Ubuntu live, you need to mount
> the partition that has /home on it, and also mount the partition onto which
> you wish to transfer files from /home.
> 
> To make it easiest, try doing it this way once you have completed a root
> login, but before doing anything else after finishing a Linux boot:
> 
> mkdir /source #location to mount source partition
> mount -t xfs /dev/sda6 /source #mount it
> mkdir /target #location to mount target partition
> mount -t hpfs -o rw /dev/sda8 /target #or whatever type and temporary
> location if you chose to make one first
> cp -a /source/home/<loginname>/<sourcefiles> /target #puts files you want
> into the root directory on LVM C: partition
> 
> Everything after eash # above is commentary, not to be typed.
> 
> If you don't know exactly where the files you want are located under
> /source/home/<loginname>, remember that 'ls -l | less' acts pretty much like
> 'dir /p' in OS/2 but with PgUp/PgDn available to facilitate long list
> examination.
> 
> Copying the source files would be easier from a true SUSE rescue (running
> from /dev/sda6) because you could run Midnight Commander (mc, works very much
> like FC/2, Larsen Commander and other OFMs available on OS/2). MC isn't on
> any Ubuntu CD.
> 
> If you want to first (before a Linux boot) create a special partition for the
> temporary transfer, use DFSee to make whatever type, size and location (I'd
> put it at end of current freespace). Easiest is probably FAT32, since DFSee9
> can also format it. Otherwise you'd have to boot whichever OS it is native to
> and create a filesystem on it (FORMAT in OS/2, mkfs* in Linux).

Many thanks. It's past midnight here, and I am getting bleary, so I may have to
ask other questions tomorrow. But I get the drift, and will try to do the
retrieval tomorrow (the last day I will have to do anything in this direction).
Then I will reinstall from scratch after my return from abroad.

As for JFS, apparently the IBM version is compatible with that of Linux,
because I have been accessing this partition quite happily from SuSE since
July, which was a pleasant surprise. 

>From what I grasp through my descending eyelids, it seems more promising to go
with Rescue than with Live Ubuntu.

Did you receive the message I sent you to your address, about Wankel engines?

-- 
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel


>From REAL answers on children's science examinations (#1):
Q: Name the four seasons.
A: Salt, pepper, mustard and vinegar.
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