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Chuck Davis wrote:
> I'm with you, Glen.  Eclipse 3.3 on openSuse 10.2 just sucks.  I
> presume it would be the same on 10.3.  I find nothing wrong with Java
> 1.6.  I've been using 1.6 features for many months without ANY
> problems.  The major problem with Eclipse is they ship their own jvm
> if I recall correctly.  And stuff written to their jvm may not work on
> real Java.  Secondly, if you want to create Swing components it starts
> an instance of the jvm for each JFrame -- which means your memory is
> gone in a big hurry.  Swing development is really painfully S-L-O-W.
> I won't go into the issues with SWT which are fairly well documented
> elsewhere.
> 
> NB6, however, the daily builds of which I am sure both of us have been
> using extensively is a work of art.  Consists of 100% Java.  Makes
> Swing development a breeze.  Runs on real Java and always the latest
> version.  It doesn't get any better than  that.

Unless you are MAC user on leopard with no 1.6 support.... :-)

> 
> Chuck
> 
> On 11/15/07, Glenn Holmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thursday 15 November 2007 10:14:39 G T Smith wrote:
>>> It may be fine for you, but others report issues with code written to
>>> earlier specs with 6. As I had stated elsewhere Eclipse recommend Sun
>>> Java v5 and give no guarantees on other versions at this time (though
>>> they are looking for suitable experimental subjects :-) )....
>> Try NetBeans 6.0, release candidate 1 just came out:
>>
>> http://www.netbeans.org/community/releases/60/index.html
>>
>>

Chuck this is one hell of an extrapolation,

Glenn, Netbeans is good for one thing and one thing only.. Java. And the
original poster was interested in C++ development, and Java is just one
the things I work with.

Eclipse has support for C++/C, Perl, Python, Ruby, UML and the list goes
on (there are several hundred plugins). (This is probably one of the
reasons that moving the framework to 1.6 is slow, the platform is hugely
diverse). I currently working on some Perl stuff on Eclipse, something
you cannot do with Netbeans.

No one computing language is a universal solution to all problems, so
integrating them in a common cross platform framework is generally a
good thing,  Eclipse is probably the only open source based framework
that can offer an alternative to MSs Visual Studio.

BTW just because it has problem running on the the 1.6 JRE does not mean
you cannot run it on the 1.5 JRE and develop in the 1.6 JRE.


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