On Fri, 23 Nov, 2007 at 18:06:22 -0800, Robert Smits wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2007 03:17:40 Thomas Goettlicher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking > > for a radical new design. > > > > This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. > > > > Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas > > here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center > > Hi, Thomas. Thanks for asking us about what we'd like to see.
Indeed, thanks for that. > All I really want is for YAST to be faster, especially at downloading updates > from repositories. And why does it have to download a whole new list if I > used it earlier in the day? Agreed. > I'm not convinced I WANT a radical new design. I don't, as a rule, care all > that much for change for change's sake, but if you give me a better Yast, > I'll learn it. Me too, though 'better' *is* kind of a subjective experience I guess :) In other subthreads there are discussions on a variety of aspects. My take on a couple of them: [architecture] I agree that a server/client sort of thing might be nice. There was some discussion about ssh -X vs. NX and 'going https://' To me the speed of ssh vs. NX seems irrelevant. If we're talking about server/client - then the traffic would mainly consist of 'control-messages' anyway, right? server> "here are the options" client> "do this" server> "ok" vs: server> "bitmap bitmap bitmap" client> "mouse click on coordinates such and such" server> "pixel pixel pixel" So what's needed is a networked YaST *protocol*, encapsulated in strong encryption, rather than a way of transporting a locally generated gui somewhere else (or rather; a remotely generated gui transported to 'here'). https:// ? please don't: Next thing you know it, I'm going to need javascript or mono or something, in order to administrate remote boxes... <brrr....> Cross-platform? Thanks, but no thanks: I have no desire to see linux core administration at the mercy of windows-viruses. Functionality? Well, if the server knows something that my local YaST-console doesn't, there should be an option to download and install that module from the server. [gui-layout] I'm a big fan of tree structures, and the "left-pane shows navigation, right pane shows content" way of things. I think the sysconfig editor tree-structure in the ncurses YaST does a very good job. However, since there are more ways than one to represent the various administrative tasks, it might be nice to have different tree *types*, selectable. On the other end of the spectrum we have the, no offense, 'gnome-menu' type of layout; Everything is one window, with icons spread out, and a scroll-bar that you have to manipulate. I don't like it. There, I said it. MO /jon -- YMMV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
