Richard Creighton pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> 
> The Wednesday 2007-12-05 at 14:37 -0500, Richard Creighton wrote:
> 
> 
>>>> Shortly after rebooting, the updater said it had a security patch on the
>>>> new .13 kernel and (I know, I should know better than to trust anything
>>>> by now), it was small, a patch and I said, go ahead, it isn't installing
>>>> a new kernel, just requires a reboot to load it into memory after the
>>>> update.....Yeah, right!....
> Patch or no patch, a kernel patch replaces the whole kernel, even if
> only a small part of it actually changes.
> 
>> I know it replaces the kernel, it has to, but I wasn't expecting it to
>> REPLACE 2 earlier versions with the patched version which seems to have
>> the same version number....yup....just checked, the version number did
>> not change and the patch didn't mention anything about a version change
> 
>>>> It not only ate my GRUB configuration files
>>>> and replaced them, it also destroyed (by erasure) all of the other linux
>>>> kernels in /boot, their syms AND all of the modules AND sources in /lib
>>>> for those versions!!!!!   Dammitalltohellanyway!!!!
> All the kernels with different version numbers that the one it was
> replacing? It should only replace the previous kernel, no more. If it
> removes other kernels, open a bugzilla.
> 
>> It erased  2.6.22.12-0.1-bigsmp
>>                   2.6.22.9-0.4 bigsmp
> 
>> and reinstalled
>>                  2.6.22.13-0.3-bigsmp (I assumed patched) which was
>> already online unpatched with that version.
> 
> 
> And, if you say you had compiled your own kernel, that one would not
> be touched - provided you compiled it with a different name.
> Furthermore, once you give the kernel a name (inside the make), the
> /lib/modules/ tree receives also a different name, and that one is not
> replaced:
> 
>   1505880 Nov 22 22:21 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.12-0.1-cer  <-- mine
>   1559220 Nov 12 04:13 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.12-0.1-cer.old <-- mine, old
>   1593968 Nov  7 17:09 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.12-0.1-default  <-- theirs
> 
> Only "theirs" is replaced. Plus:
> 
>> I start with a make mrproper but
>> I am not enough of a kernel expert to answer the thousands of questions
>> in the .config so I compile using a make O=<my source area> oldconfig
>> and the only thing I have to do when done is to
>> make O=<my source area> modules_install install
> 
> 
>> insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/scsi/rr174x.ko
>> depmod
>> mkinitrd
> 
> 
> /lib/modules/2.6.22.12-0.1-cer/      <=== mine
> /lib/modules/2.6.22.12-0.1-default/
> /lib/modules/2.6.22.12-0.1-debug/
> /lib/modules/2.6.22.12-0.1-xen/
> /lib/modules/2.6.22.12-0.1-xenpae/
> 
> Those I have named your kernel, prior to compile, mind! are not
> replaced by Yast. They don't belong to any rpm, thus they are not
> touched.
> 
> The sources, yes, that would be lost unless I copied them over. That
> is known.
> 
> 
> But yes, for something as important as a kernel, it should ask. But I
> think you can go into YOU (never, ever, do an automatic update) and
> select the previous kernel to be maintained - but... no, as it has the
> same rpm name, the option is not given. You can't.
> 
>> For many weeks, going on months, I studiously ignored the red triangle
>> of the updater.   I weakened this one time.    I will NEVER trust the
>> updater again.   All updates had been done via the YAST online update
>> where I had some control over what and when.   Kinda defeats the purpose
>> of the automatic updater, doesn't it?   I have filed bugreports until I
>> am tired of being ignored.  
> 
>> 

> 
>> I live and breathe Linux, love SuSE

You're not the only one, been using SuSe linux since 1998.


Another thing you can do is download the updated kernel from the update
site[1] and install it yourself using rpm -i and it will install as
another bootable kernel and give you a chance to make your module and
test before removing any older kernel.

[1] http://download.opensuse.org/update/10.3/rpm/i586/

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Ken Schneider
SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998
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