On Sunday 23 December 2007 18:17:54 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> primm wrote:
> >>>>>> NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ugly? Naah! It's soooo neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login
> >>>>> anywhere and get their own files and start work right after they've
> >>>>> got a coffee. It just works. Just like NT server before someone
> >>>>> downloded a virus.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, I guess if someone else is configuring and maintaining it, sure,
> >>>> it's wonderful.
> >>>
> >>> I setup  an nfs server to export /home to 5 other clients. The same
> >>> server handles nis logins. No eggageration, it took me 1/2 hour most of
> >>> which was reading man exports until I discovered that Yast had read it
> >>> for me already! I'll bet that some gurus on this list could do it in 5.
> >>>
> >>> Just curious, but what are my alternatives for nfs?
> >>> Love from L
> >>
> >> nfs is good, it mostly just works. But v3 has drawbacks in security, so
> >> if you're not in total control of the network, it might not be so good
> >>
> >> nfsv4 + kerberos can provide real authentication and encryption though,
> >> so you still don't have to abandon nfs
> >
> > 4 years ago it cost me two days work and a 300 Euro installation cost
> > from an engineer who also sold me the licences for my workstations. That
> > was w2000.
>
> Wow....that's pathetically sad.
>
> > It was plagued by viruses and most of my hardware wan't recognised so I
> > had to fork out for new machines too. 5000 Euros later.
> >
> > I'm now reading that Linux nfs which I installed by yast all by myself is
> > also a security risk. But for gads sake, it's been up for 6 months with
> > my staff reading e-mails and chatting to and from their latest boyfriends
> > all through the lunch break. I use SuSEfirewall2. Setup by Yast.
>
> Yes, NFS is a security risk -- but as you have also discovered,
> it's a very small one....substantially lower risk than any
> Windows machine just being ON the internet.
>
> > What a mess. I can't afford to go back to commercial products at the
> > moment. Other people have told me that I have no alternatives. . . What
> > the ???? is nfsv4 + kerberos? Yes, I know I can google it. I just have.
> > But tomorrow morining I'll be back at work and I've a date this evening.
>
> If I were you, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
> NFS has been in use for a good 20 years now, and I know
> of no ACTUAL exploitations of the flaws in NFS.
>
> It doesn't mean that they aren't there...it just means
> that nobody has successfully taken advantage of them.
>
> The fact that major corporations like GM and Ford
> continue to use NFS to this very day, without demanding
> a more secure product from Unix vendors (Sun, HP, etc)
> tells me that the risk is controllable to a level which
> is acceptable.
>
> Firewalls play a big part in that equation, and you
> say you use them, so you should be OK.
>
> > It's at times like these I wish I'd stayed with my Microsoft rep.
> >
> > Do I change my network back to Windows 2000? I'm not a hobbyist. Can
> > anyone advise me in plain English o EspaƱol? Please, if you do not run a
> > network then please do not write.
>
> You're fine.  Stick with what you have.
>
> It's very easy for some spammer on the other side of the planet
> to hijack your Windows machines -- all he has to do is set up
> a website designed to be an attractive nuisance -- like post
> a video that everyone wants to watch...and on the same page,
> load up a script into your Windows machine that imports a
> virus or whatever remote-control mechanism they want to use.
>
> > Love from Primm xx

Oh thank gad. Sense at last. Thank ?*%k for that.
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