On Friday 25 January 2008 11:58:30 Billie Walsh wrote: > On 01/24/2008 Jonathan Ervine wrote: > > You can complain to the hardware vendor, you can take your business > > to > > hardware vendors that provide good support or at least information to > > the > > kernel developers. Things are improving, and there is still work to > > do, but > > to lay the blame at the kernel developers door is a bit unfair, even > > if it is > > the easier target. > > > > Jon > > I never said these were "kernel developer" problems. Just that if the > Linux Community wants Average Joe User to move over then these are > problems that will have to be solved so they "just work".
Why is it the responsibility of the 'Linux community' to fix problems with hardware vendors not supplying the code to run their hardware or working with the Linux driver project? How is the 'Linux community' supposed to solve these problems? You're mailing to a Linux list, I think your list of complaints is better directed elsewhere. Your email was also a direct reply to one of the Linux kernel developers - hence why it seemed your complaints were directed there... > Average Joe User doesn't want to jump through hoops to make it work. He > just wants a computer that he can turn on and EVERYTHING works without > hastles. Then use the nv, radeon, Intel drivers for video and check the hardware before purchase? Even on Windows EVERYTHING doesn't work without hassles - you still have to install vendor supplied drivers or visit websites to install drivers. (Possibly, at a stretch, Macs provide the computing nirvana you're seeking) > Me personally, I made a decision to move over and deal with things as > they come up. I have gotten my TV cards [ supported ] to work, off and > on. It's just way less hastle to turn on a TV than fart around in Yast > to get it to work every little bit. The WiFi card is "supported" but > about every third or fourth time I turn it on the damned thing won't > connect. Then I have to fart around with the setup to get it working > again. Most of the time if I'm in the computer room I just plug in the > cable. Complain to Atheros or whoever manufactures your wireless card. Ah yes, they won't listen to you, so it's easier to complain here. Fortunately, I've never had to use a madwifi card, although have had plenty of fun with Broadcom wireless and ndiswrapper and now, bcm43xx firmware ripping. I can only assume both these solutions are far superior to madwifi, as they don't refuse to connect on every 3-4 connection attempts. Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
