Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* David C. Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-25-08 15:59]:
When adding a group with Yast, the group is added with an 'x' for the unset password:

ochiltree:x:1002:david

        If the group is added with 'groupadd' an '!' is used for the password:

dcr:!:1051:david

        Why? What is the difference?

a guess from scanning the man pages (which *are* available), groupadd
defaults to disabling the account.  I said "a guess".


And, from where did you glean your guess old wise one??

groupadd(8)


NAME
       groupadd - create a new group entry

SYNOPSIS
       groupadd [-D binddn] [-P path] [-g gid [-o]] [-p password]
               [-r] [--service service] [--help] [--usage] [-v] group

DESCRIPTION
groupadd creates a new group entry using the values specified on the command line. Depending on the command line options the new entry will be added to the system files or LDAP database.

The group name must begin with an alphabetic character and the rest of the string should be from the
       POSIX portable character class ([A-Za-z_][A-Za-z0-9_-.]*).

OPTIONS
       -g, --gid gid
Force the new group ID to be the given number. This value must be positive and unique. The default is to use the first free ID after the greatest used one. The range from which the
              group ID is choosen can be specified in /etc/login.defs.

       -o, --non-unique
              Allow duplicate (non-unique) group IDs.

       -p, --password password
Encrypted password as returned by crypt(3) for the new account. The default is to disable the
              account.

       -r, --system
Create a system group. A system group is an entry with an GID between SYSTEM_GID_MIN and SYS- TEM_GID_MAX as defined in /etc/login.defs, if no GID is specified.

       --service service
Add the group to a special directory. The default is files, but ldap is also valid.

       -D, --binddn binddn
Use the Distinguished Name binddn to bind to the LDAP directory. The user will be prompted
              for a password for simple authentication.

       -P, --path path
The group file is located below the specified directory path. groupadd will use this files,
              not /etc/group.

       --help Print a list of valid options with a short description.

       --usage
              Print a short list of valid options.

       -v, --version
              Print the version number and exit.

FILES
       /etc/group - group account information

SEE ALSO
       login.defs(5), group(5), groupdel(8), groupmod(8)

AUTHOR
       Thorsten Kukuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



pwdutils December 2003 groupadd(8)


GROUP(5)



NAME
       group - user group file

DESCRIPTION
/etc/group is an ASCII file which defines the groups to which users belong. There is one entry per
       line, and each line has the format:

              group_name:passwd:GID:user_list

       The field descriptions are:

       group_name
              the name of the group.

       password
the (encrypted) group password. If this field is empty, no password is needed.

       GID    the numerical group ID.

       user_list
              all the group member's user names, separated by commas.

FILES
       /etc/group

BUGS
As the 4.2BSD initgroups(3) man page says: No-one seems to keep /etc/group up-to-date.

SEE ALSO
       login(1), newgrp(1), passwd(5)



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