Read my original message again: this is a problem which exists for loading resources through both classloaders and the servlet context. If you want something which will always work then you must use interval reloading. However this means that you have to have a thread which is running to load the resource at a regular basis and this too can be a problem if you are running in a J2EE container. There is no good solution at this time, i.e. nothing provided by the APIs, but you should probably use something (or at least give users the option to use something).

Sincerely,
Anthony Eden

Pat Lightbody wrote:

Sounds to me like this is not a good plan then.


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Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Configuration in /WEB-INF





According to the servlet spec getRealPath() will always return null if
the web application is executing in an non-unpacked war.  So, in general
this is not an option for a servlet or any j2ee application.

LES


-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Lightbody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Configuration in /WEB-INF


Isn't getRealPath() deprecated though?

-Pat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mathias Bogaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Configuration in /WEB-INF




This is exactly the way SiteMesh does it. Have a look at the


ConfigLoader.


Cheers,
Mathias

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Eden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Configuration in /WEB-INF




There is an interesting problem with using the ClassLoader or the
ServletContext for getting resource data: there is no way using the


APIs


to determine if the resource has been modified.

One workaround is to check the getRealPath() method to see if it is
available and use it if it is to build a real file object which you


can


use to determine the last modified date.  Another possibility is to
specify a reload interval for the resource.

Does XWork (and/or WW2) provide either of these methods for


reloading


configuration resources?

-Anthony

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ah, I see. That makes sense. So, you are doing it based on the


servlet


context class loader. Kewl, glad to learn that.

LES

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Eden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Configuration in /WEB-INF

You don't need to open an HTTP connection, rather you can get the
InputStream directly from the servlet context:

InputStream in =
servletContext.getResourceAsStream("/WEB-INF/xwork.xml");

Sincerely,
Anthony Eden

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I may just be confused or have missed something, but does


getResource


not just give you the path relative to the doc root? Will you


then


open



it using http? Normally, would you not secure your web-inf from


url


access(for security reasons)? Or is there another method that


would


allow you to actually use File (by getting the servlets


"realpath")?


LES

-----Original Message-----
From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Configuration in /WEB-INF

getRealPath is very bad, what's so wrong with
servletContext.getResource() though?

On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 06:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]


wrote:



The hardest problem with that is that you can't use
context.getRealPath() to get the location of WEB-INF in an


unpacked


war




config (per servlet spec). Honestly, classpath is usually the


best


solution.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mathias Bogaert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OS-webwork] Configuration in /WEB-INF

Guys,

It seems like we are having a lot of problems with finding
configuration
files in the classpath etc. Also, I dislike putting configuration


files




other than .properties on the classpath. That's why I propose


putting


it
all
(components.xml, xwork.xml etc)under /WEB-INF directly (same as
SiteMesh
for
example).

+1 from me

Mathias



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