Looking at the default Nessus profiles, it seems to scan only common ports for 
the PCI scan.
Still I would include all the ports because when a third party scans the 
environment (annual pentest) they probably will as well; you want to avoid new 
findings and be in control.
My external quarterly ASV scan vendor also scans all IP’s on all ports, even 
when the machine is down.

One thing Nessus does do/know is what the PCI rules are, which sometimes helps 
with findings. (it says why it is not PCI compliant)
Even though the rules aren’t that strict for the internal scans, as 11.2.3.b 
says:

For external scans, no vulnerabilities exist that are scored 4.0 or higher by 
the CVSS.
For internal scans, all “high risk” vulnerabilities as defined in PCI DSS 
Requirement 6.1 are resolved.

So no matter the CVSS score, with a good risk methodology you can get a case 
internally with a high CVSS score but a low risk which may be acceptable.
No matter if you use OpenVAS, Nessus or something else you still need to decide 
your threshold for which findings make it to your report and then determine the 
risk.
(I always make my own report for the customers and include the default reports 
with raw data as well)


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Van: Ahmad Al-Talafha [mailto:[email protected]]
Verzonden: donderdag 24 augustus 2017 11:15
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Onderwerp: RE: [Openvas-discuss] DSS PCI NVT family missing

Thanks Thijs,

I am conducting an internal scan, and testing openvas.

I was confused because we have Nessus and there is a policy related to PCI DSS 
and thought I could find the same in openVAS

Best Regards,

Ahmad Al Talafha




From: Thijs Stuurman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 12:11 PM
To: Ahmad Al-Talafha 
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Volotinen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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Subject: RE: [Openvas-discuss] DSS PCI NVT family missing

I suppose the default scan config “Full and fast” would suffice.
Personally I do not use OpenVAS for PCI environments and opted for a Nessus VM 
which has a PCI internal vulnerability scan option.
The only reason for that is because the PCI auditors (and our customers) know 
and trust Nessus and it clearly shows it is a PCI internal scan which was 
performed.
It just makes the audits easier.

If in any doubt, contact your PCI auditor to verify what he thinks is 
acceptable.



Thijs Stuurman
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Van: Openvas-discuss [mailto:[email protected]] 
Namens Ahmad Al-Talafha
Verzonden: donderdag 24 augustus 2017 11:02
Aan: Eero Volotinen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
CC: 
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Onderwerp: Re: [Openvas-discuss] DSS PCI NVT family missing

Hi Eero,

Please can you tell me in this case which NVT family to choose, and how I can 
check if all plugins are enabled


Best Regards,

Ahmad Al Talafha




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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:32 AM
To: Ahmad Al-Talafha 
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Cc: 
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Subject: Re: [Openvas-discuss] DSS PCI NVT family missing

There is no such as PCI family in openvas. For internal PCI scanning you need 
to enable all plugins and scan all tcp ports.
Eero

2017-08-24 10:07 GMT+03:00 Ahmad Al-Talafha 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Dears,

Hope this mail finds you well

I am using openvas Version 7.0.2, and I am trying to run a PCI compliance scan 
but I cant find PCI family in the NVTs.

My NVTs status shows “Too old (14 days) - Please check the automatic 
synchronization of your system”

Please advise on this case, what I am missing


Best Regards,

Ahmad Al Talafha




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