On 13/05/15 02:05, Lisa Minogue wrote:
> Hi David
> 
>> From: David Sommerseth <openvpn.l...@topphemmelig.net>
>> Sent: Tue May 12 23:07:52 CEST 2015
>> To: Lisa Minogue <lmino...@mail.be>, Jonathan K. Bullard 
>> <jkbull...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Openvpn-devel] Request peer review of modified OpenVPN client 
>> software
> 
>> The XOR patch which we've basically rejected so far, modifies how
>> OpenVPN packets looks like. Piping the traffic through stunnel will
>> actually encrypt the OpenVPN packets once more, thus the packets will
>> not look like OpenVPN packets. And the same happens if you use obfsproxy
>> from the Tor project, which also is used to mangle the network
>> packets.
> 
> Briefly what are your reasons for rejecting the XOR patch?

Read carefully below, as I already answered that.

>> We have generally recommended obfsproxy, as that's a tool
>> especially designed to do this clever magic in a very flexible way. So when a
>> firewall learns the new packet fingerprint, obfsproxy can easily and
>> quickly be extended with another mangler. And that is why we don't want this
>> functionality built into OpenVPN. Because it is far harder for
>> OpenVPN to follow what passes through various "Great Firewalls" (you
>> have more countries doing that than just China). The Tor projects have a
>> special interest in making such mangling work as smooth as possible,
>> with great success. Hence that has been our primary recommendation.
> 
> Thanks once again for your time and effort in helping me understand
> the advantages of using obfsproxy over XOR patch or stunnel4.
> 
> Do OpenVPN developers have an official wiki on how to use obfsproxy
> with OpenVPN? Or is the article referenced by the following
> URL--https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/TrafficObfuscation--your
> official guide?

No, that's the general approach.  Using obfsproxy is actually fairly
simple.  I've not tested the setup which is demonstrated here in a long
time, but I see that nowadays obfsproxy supports a better protocol,
obfs3 instead of obfs2.  And that's the power of obfsproxy, when newer
tweaks are needed to combat these "Great Firewalls", the Tor projects
have a solution for you.


-- 
kind regards,

David Sommerseth

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