On 28/03/17 14:21, Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 02:11:26PM +0200, David Sommerseth wrote:
>>> That's great!  This way, 2.4 does not have to change it's behaviour.
>>> Still, I think it makes sense to deprecate --ns-cert-type, and remove it
>>> in favour or --remote-cert-tls in openvpn 2.5.
>>
>> Based on the feedback and discussions in Fedora regarding to us removing
>> --tls-remote .... I actually think 2.5 is too early.  
> 
> Nobody suggested removing --remote-cert-tls.

I don't think I tried to say that :)  I mentioned --tls-remote in v2.4
as that caused quite some noise.  I actually had to add a patch in the
EPEL packages for EL6+EL7 bringing it back again, to ease these complaints.

> This is about --ns-cert-type.

Right :)

>> We need to have a
>> patch very soon complaining loudly in the log files 
> 
> Like, 57637d0f677d824dacdc83d858357ccc80723f45? :-)

Ahh!  I completely forgot about that patch.  Good!  It's even in v2.4.1
already :)

>> and get in touch
>> with at least NetworkManager guys to ensure they have time to implement
>> a solution when this goes away.  So I think 2.6 is more realistic.
> 
> Shouldn't be so hard to do a string-substitution in NM...   with
> 60b23236329e6921729f51e7689042a29c794a6b, this is really straightforward

If the behaviour is really close by doing a substitution, this should be
good enough.  --tls-remote to --verify-x509-name is more complicated,
due to character remapping and such ugly details.

> (unless your certs are really, *really* weird, providing a proper 
> nsCert extention, but no proper keyUsage/extKeyUsage extentions).

Well, despite weirdness occurring (Way too) often, I think we can live
with that noise if we have given enough time to adopt.  As long as we
have a real and solid argument they have been doing things wrong in the
beginning.


-- 
kind regards,

David Sommerseth
OpenVPN Technologies, Inc


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