Yes its sad that many distributions have defaulted to systemd without it
being sufficiently mature software and without the package maintainers
putting in sufficient work to integrate properly.
I've got lots of experience running Debian 8 without systemd, I can tell
you it works just fine.
On 14 July 2016 at 15:20, David Sommerseth <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/07/16 19:09, Steve Wray wrote:
> > Heres how I fix the problem:
> >
> >
> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
> >
> > OpenVPN works fine after that.
>
> Seriously, any advice removing systemd from a system is a misguided
> attempt of improvement. It rather shows lack of understanding how a
> modern Linux distribution works.
>
> It is *not* an advisable approach to avoid systemd. It is unfortunate
> that distributions have not looked at the systemd unit files we're
> shipping in out release tarballs. But we are trying to fix that.
>
> OpenVPN together with systemd gives you far better control, especially
> if you run several configurations simultaneously compared to the vast
> majority of distribution specific init script approaches. In fact,
> systemd provides the possibility to unify OpenVPN management across all
> systemd based distributions. Which makes it far easier in the long run
> to help out users and sys-admins regardless of their choice of Linux
> distribution. First step towards that goal is to ensure all
> distributions ships our preferred upstream unit files - which we are
> working on.
>
> Start spending energy embracing the future instead of fighting against
> it. Especially when the majority of the most common Linux distributions
> have chosen systemd.
>
>
> --
> kind regards,
>
> David Sommerseth
>
>
>
> > On 28 June 2016 at 01:00, Josu Lazkano <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > This works for me.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > 2016-06-27 19:06 GMT+02:00 Sachin Garg <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> > > On Monday 27 June 2016 10:51 AM, Josu Lazkano wrote:
> > >> Thanks for the reply,
> > >>
> > >> I never configure the init script with systemd.
> > >>
> > >> This is what I have in the directory:
> > >>
> > >> # ls -l /etc/systemd/system/
> > >> total 28
> > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 26 2015 getty.target.wants
> > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 26 2015 halt.target.wants
> > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 24 17:33 multi-user.target.wants
> > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 26 2015 paths.target.wants
> > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 26 2015 poweroff.target.wants
> > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 26 2015 reboot.target.wants
> > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 11 2015 sockets.target.wants
> > >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Apr 26 2015 sshd.service ->
> > >> /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service
> > >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Apr 26 2015 syslog.service ->
> > >> /lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service
> > >>
> > >> Could you show your openvpn@{name}.service and openvpn@
> {name}.timer?
> > >
> > > I don't use openvpn timers, so can't do that.
> > >
> > > my opinion on systemd (FWIW) is that it is not meant for mere
> mortals
> > > to use. I know that the documentation is excellent, but I find it
> > a bit
> > > obtuse. Though I not in the camp that believes we should abhor it,
> I
> > > definitely feel the need fro a "systemd for dummies" and how it
> > ties in
> > > with the old ways of working.
> > >
> > > Now that the rant is over, well systemd has different places for
> its
> > > unit files. On my Debian 8.5:
> > >
> > > $ cat /etc/debian_version
> > > 8.5
> > > $ ls -al /lib/systemd/system/openvpn*
> > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 320 Sep 30 2014
> > /lib/systemd/system/openvpn.service
> > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 361 Sep 30 2014
> > /lib/systemd/system/[email protected]
> > >
> > > To start the service on site1:
> > >
> > > systemctl start [email protected]
> > >
> > > Note: do not use [email protected]; i.e. the name of the
> > file +
> > > extension
> > >
> > > To check status:
> > >
> > > systemctl status [email protected]
> > >
> > > To stop:
> > >
> > > systemctl stop [email protected]
> > >
> > > To enable on boot time:
> > >
> > > systemctl enable [email protected]
> > >
> > > To monitor, I use the awesome byobu (a wrapper on top of tmux) and
> > start
> > > the following in one byobu terminal:
> > >
> > > $ sudo journalctl -l -u openvpn@site1 -f
> > >
> > >
> > > That should set you up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Kind regards.
> > >>
> > >> 2016-06-27 16:23 GMT+02:00 debbie10t <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 27/06/16 08:34, Josu Lazkano wrote:
> > >>>> Hello,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am trying to configure a site to site OpenVPN link between 2
> > Debian
> > >>>> Jessie servers.
> > >>> <s>
> > >>>> The problem is that I can not start the service with the init
> > script:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> # /etc/init.d/openvpn start
> > >>>> [ ok ] Starting openvpn (via systemctl): openvpn.service.
> > >>> Using systemd, you will need a unit file to start openvpn.
> > >>>
> > >>> I use /etc/systemd/system/openvpn@{name}.service and
> > openvpn@{name}.timer
> > >>>
> > >>> Also note:
> > >>> https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/ticket/462
> > >>>
> > >>> regards
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
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> >
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