On 14.05.19 17:45, Jan Just Keijser wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 14/05/19 13:47, mich...@fritscher.net wrote:
>> Am 2019-05-14 09:37, schrieb mich...@fritscher.net:
>>> Am 2019-05-13 23:51, schrieb Michael Fritscher:
>>>> On 13.05.19 17:05, Gert Doering wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 04:20:41PM +0200, mich...@fritscher.net wrote:
>>>>>> I experienced a high system cpu usage of OpenVPN in qemu on Windows.
>>>>>> Both with hax and whpx (kvm-like accelerators). Apparently, it
>>>>>> does make
>>>>>> calls to hpet_read (or acpi_pm_read if hpet is disabled) with 1 kHz.
>>>>>> This makes a overhead ov over 85% regarding the "perf" program.
>>>>>> Is that normal? It seems to only happen on the server, which also
>>>>>> streams UDP packets with about 1 MB/sec.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have rate-limiting configured on the server, it needs to
>>>>> check time vs. buckets - that could be one of the reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or if you have too much debugging configured and it needs to timestamp
>>>>> (lots of) debug lines written out...
>>>>>
>>>>> gert
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not using the shaper functionality of OpenVPN, and verb is set
>>>> to 3.
>>>> But we are indeed using tc-htb... Btw, on VMWare I don't see this calls
>>>> albeit using exactly the same image.
>>>>
>>>> I've uploaded the data of the perf run on
>>>> https://mifritscher.de/austausch/openvpn/ .
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Michael Fritscher
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>> I've uploaded the perf file from VMWare for comparison under
>>> https://mifritscher.de/austausch/openvpn/vmware/ . Additionally, I've
>>> uploaded the dmesg output using VMWare and Qemu.
>>>
>>> One interesting thing: It does not always happen, and if it doesn't
>>> happen I can provoke it playing with the priority, CPU affinity etc of
>>> the qemu process. So it seems to be really a timing problem which can
>>> be provoked by scheduling issues on the host?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Michael Fritscher
>>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> I've uploaded a "good" case with qemu. In this good case, I've 2
>> additional lines in dmesg:
>>
>> [    0.028000] tsc: Fast TSC calibration failed
>> [    4.544469] tsc: Refined TSC clocksource calibration: 2808.001
>>
>> And the perf log show no hpet_read call at all!
>>
>> Somehow it looks like a severe timer problem...
>>
> 
> you're running qemu+hax on Windows and inside the VM you're running
> Linux, right?
> what happens if you disable tc-htb inside the VM? does the hpet_read
> overhead disappear? if so, then you know it's the 'tc' that is causing
> the CPU load.
> 
> Another thing to test is to run a  UDP iperf scan inside the VM with
> tc-htb enabled to a host outside, e.g.
>   iperf -u -b 1G -s
>   iperf -u -b 1G -c <client>
> 
> and then see if you ALSO get a high hpet_read overhead - if you do, then
> you know it's not openvpn related at all.
> Finally, I am not too surprised that you don't get this behavior with
> VMware, as qemu/kvm is much worse at timing than vmware is. You can play
> with some of the linux kernel options to turn off or on the hi-res
> timers - but for tc to work, you need high-precision timing routines.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> JJK
> 

Hi,

yes. you describe the scenario right.
tc is not the culprit - no change if I disable it (reset the tc with
/sbin/tc qdisc del dev [eth0,tun0] root) during runtime.

Best regards,
Michael Fritscher


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