Hi,

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 03:32:30PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:55 PM
> > From: "Gert Doering" <g...@greenie.muc.de>
> > To: "Stella Ashburne" <rewe...@gmx.com>
> > Cc: openvpn-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Openvpn-users] Request: A *.deb package for OpenVPN 2.5.9 on 
> > Debian 12/Bookworm
> >
> >
> > I'm aware of that, I maintain that file :-) - for Linux users, there is
> > nothing really interesting in 2.6.3 -> 2.6.4.  The bugs fixed in 2.6.4
> > affect Windows, MacOS/pkcs#11 and Android users.
> 
> Sorry, could you be a bit more specific? By "file" did you mean
> "package"? To the best of my knowledge, the package called "openvpn
> 2.6.3-1" is maintained by Bernhard Schmidt. Your name is not listed
> on the page referenced by
> https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/o/openvpn/openvpn_2.6.3-1_changelog

The text I wrote refered to the "Changes.rst" you pointed to - and indeed,
that one I maintain, while the official Debian package is maintained by
Bernhard.

> P.S.: I am just curious and if you have time, could you explain
> why Bernhard Schmidt's name is listed as the maintainer of
> 2.6.5-bookworm0? When it is obvious to everyone that Frank or Samuli,
> on behalf of OpenVPN Inc., is the real maintainer (in the sense of
> expending time and effort on creating 2.6.5-bookworm0.) Bernhard's
> name is listed in the file called Packages
> (https://build.openvpn.net/debian/openvpn/release/2.6/dists/bookworm-20230613112628209348061/main/binary-amd64/Packages)

There's "upstream maintainers" (Frank, Samuli, I) who do the software
development independent of any particular Linux distribution, or any
other operating system.

Then there's "distro" or "port maintainers", who take the upstream
git repo / tarball, possibly add patches to better suit whatever that
distro needs (like, "where are things installed", "is there a systemd
unit file needed, or a classic /etc/rc.d/ script", etc.).  Official
packages have to follow official rules about release cycles, and
especially in Debian, very rarely get "new version" updates, so 
you are unlikely to see a 2.6.5 package for bookworm, but they do
get bugfixes - so a 2.6.3-2, 2.3.6-3, ... is likely to show up.

For Debian, we have Bernhard Schmidt, who does the official Debian
blessed packages, and we also have Frank and Samuli who build
"not debian blessed" packages that can be installed on Debian systems
if someone wants the latest and greatest.  These follow project
rules, not Debian rules - so you get 2.6.5, but they are not part
of the "official distribution".

Sometimes there is overlap in people - like, for FreeBSD, I maintain
the "openvpn-devel" port, which gets updated with git snapshots whenever
there is an interesting bug or feature that might be relevant to
FreeBSD users.  For RedHat/CentOS, package maintenance is done
by David Sommerseth, who is also part of the OpenVPN team (though
mostly busy with OpenVPN 3.x these days).

Sometimes also distributions fall behind, because maintainers are too
busy with something else...  and sometimes distributions ship something
they shouldn't (like Ubuntu 22.10 shipping a git master version of
OpenVPN).

gert
-- 
"If was one thing all people took for granted, was conviction that if you 
 feed honest figures into a computer, honest figures come out. Never doubted 
 it myself till I met a computer with a sense of humor."
                             Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

Gert Doering - Munich, Germany                             g...@greenie.muc.de

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