> Sorry, I am so busy nowadays :)

Yes no problem!
I talked with Pete on the JSFDays and he told me that the package names of the 
API may be changed to be under ee soon due to a request by some involved 
reviewer parties. So as we imho should wait with M2 for this to come, we don't 
have any hurry atm.

I also had to do some maven and openjpa things which kept me busy, but now am 
focussing back to the openejb integration.

LieGrue,
strub


--- Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> schrieb am Fr, 3.4.2009:

> Von: Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: inventing a scope metric
> An: [email protected]
> Datum: Freitag, 3. April 2009, 17:48
> For the time being , proxy may be
> enough.
> 
> Sorry, I am so busy nowadays :)
> 
> Gurkan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: James Carman <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 7:24:01 PM
> Subject: Re: inventing a scope metric
> 
> I would suggest keeping proxies regardless of scope
> incompatibilities.
> In Wicket, we use proxies for injected references because
> of
> serialization issues (the pages/components are serialized
> out to
> disk).  Most things that you're injecting aren't truly
> serializable
> (like DAOs and stuff).  Now, we could re-inject
> dependencies upon
> deserialization, but that doesn't solve the problem
> either.  Suppose a
> component passes its directly-injected, non-proxied
> reference to some
> other object that maintains that reference (a reference to
> a DAO for
> instance).  Now, that object can't be serialized.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'd like to write down a general idea about scopes and
> their interaction which (after a talk with Pete) I think is
> 'implicitely' defined in the JSR-299 spec.
> >
> > 1) If I inject a bean of a 'shorter' ranged scope into
> a bean with a 'longer' ranged scope, then we have to use a
> proxy object.
> >
> > An example: We do need a proxy if an @SessionScoped
> bean has an @RequestScoped bean as a member, because for
> every request, the @RequestScoped bean member is different
> to the one from the previous request.
> >
> > We do _not_ need to use a proxy if the scope of the
> injected member bean is 'equal' or 'longer' as the bean
> where it's a member of.
> >
> > 2.) Since the spec requires SessionScoped and
> ConversationScoped beans to be Serializable, those 2 have to
> be injected via proxies only.
> >
> > Since JSR-299 gives anyone the possibility to write
> own Scopes, a simple hardcoded scope comparison matrix is
> not sufficient.
> > To work around this, we may introduce a simple list of
> metrics in our configuration, 1 for each known scope. Where
> a higher number means a longer lifetime of beans of a
> scope.
> >
> > e.g.
> > scope.metric.RequestScoped=1
> > scope.metric.ConversationScoped=2
> > scope.metric.ApplicationScoped=3
> >
> > If someone e.g. likes to introduce a WorkflowScoped
> (which typically is even longer than applications since they
> may be persisted into a database and last for years
> (kafkaesk indeed but possible)) it would get a metric of 4.
> > Another example: JSF has a 'FlashScoped' which would
> fit between RequestScoped and ConversationScoped ...
> >
> > Open questions:
> > a.) can there be 2 scopes which are 'equally' ?
> > b.) is a simple ordered (comma separated) list
> sufficient?
> >
> > WDYT? May we get this plugable enough?
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
>       



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