On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Kenneth Kalmer
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:32 PM, J B <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM, John Mettraux <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:54 PM, bokmann <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > My railsconf talk on Workflow has been accepted:
>>> >
>>> > http://en.oreilly.com/rails2009/public/schedule/detail/7535
>>> >
>>> > Hope to see you guys there!
>>>
>>> This is great. I especially like the "whole span" approach you're
>>> taking. Looking forward to see the slides and the video.
>>>
>>> If you need any help, please ask.
>>>
>>> One major drawback of ruote "on Rails" is that, since it requires
>>> threads for its workqueue, it can't work on passenger for instance.
>>> Multi process mongrel packs require tweaking. It's not a big problem
>>> for small company deployments, but the tendency in the Rails world (as
>>> you know) is to "scale somehow", so :(
>>
>>
>> Have these drawbacks been detailed in another thread? If not, would you
>> care to expound on them here?
>>
>
> Not outside #ruote, and I lost my chat logs recently...
>
> What I discussed with John was my concerns over the ruote engine running
> inside mongrel. We have three scenarios to cope with here:
>
> 1) Small app, single mongrel
> 2) Non-small app, multiple mongrels (single or multiple hosts, doesn't
> matter)
> 3) New-kid-on-the-block Passenger deployments
>
> The problem will make itself clear when one grasps that only one instance
> of the engine can be running at any given time. The threading issues might
> have been resolved (or severely masked) by Rails 2.2.2. The remaining issue
> is that of a single rufus-scheduler thread that needs to run.
>
> In the first scenario, no problem whatsoever. Single mongrel, single
> scheduler.
>
> The second one I'm not too sure on. With some initializer magic you can
> overcome the multiple scheduler/engine instances problem, but how would you
> interact with the engine in a mongrel where the engine isn't running?
>
> Passenger is out, just because of how it will shutdown your app if it
> doesn't need to serve requests.
>

Do you know if deploying on JRuby/Glassfish negates this problem?

Thanks,
JB

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