John,

I've decided to keep trying. I'll learn more and write more tests and
try to use Ruote in our environment. The doubts still with me, but I
absolutely agree you that there are no read-to-wear questions.


p.s. Sorry for poor English.


Best regards,
Oleg



On 24 мар, 13:04, John Mettraux <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2010/3/24 Olle <[email protected]>:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for response. My Ruote version was 2.1.8. After I did "gem
> > update" everything works fine, thank you! By the way, could Ruote work
> > with Ruby 1.9?
>
> Hello Olle,
>
> yes, ruote works on Ruby 1.9.1p378. I want to start exploring 1.9.2 soon.
>
> And if it didn't work, it's just a bug fix away.
>
> > John, our team looking for replacement of currently used workflow
> > engine, which is proprietary and poor-designed.
> > After reading some about Ruote, I extremely like design and idea of
> > that and really want to go on with it. It seems you put much effort on
> > developing Ruote. May be we'll able to return some code or ideas to
> > the project, because we have good experience of developing real-life
> > BPs.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> > But since your answer, there are some doubts for me. Could you please
> > give me your opinion. May be someone from "ruote on windows mini-
> > community" )) could help me to find the answers...
>
> > 1. Can Ruote be stable on Windows? (we have some requirements about
> > using COM, ActiveX ans so on...)
>
> As I have said, that depends on the community.
>
> The core developers are not using Windows. We believe in "unix on the
> server, firefox/safari/chrome on the client".
>
> Developing on Windows is such a pain. Incentives to develop for
> Windows are almost nonexistent. I've been doing it out of kindness for
> now.
>
> The "ruote on windows mini-community" will exist as soon as someone
> will switch from saying "it doesn't work" to "it didn't work and
> that's how I fixed it, here's the patch".
>
> > 2. Is it suitable/anybody used it for handling many complex processes
> > with hundreds of steps and subprocesses?
>
> Yes and no. Yes, people do/did heavy stuff with ruote. No, I have no
> ideas of your requirements.
>
> Ruote is placing an accent on robustness, performance comes second.
> The power of the process definition language comes at a price too.
>
> Then Ruby is not the fastest language around. Then there are the
> configuration choices, storage, operating system, machine, ... And
> then how smart is your implementation (balance between business
> processes and more classical services)
>
> Your test benches can answer that question better than I can.
>
> I think that hundreds of steps/subprocesses is not sound, whatever the
> workflow system. Less complex businesses/systems perform better and
> are easier to adapt.
>
> Sorry, no ready-to-wear answers. Best regards,
>
> --
> John Mettraux   -  http://jmettraux.wordpress.com

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