Don't take offense at my word, none was intended. He wrote a blog entry several years ago illustrating why he thought state machines were not workflow, clearly denigrating the approach.
Every successful open source project has an opinionated leader behind it. Strong opinions are an asset. > On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Damon Torgerson <[email protected]> wrote: > > In my experience with John, he's never denigrated any approach. In fact, he > encouraged me to use a state-machine approach rather than using a workflow > engine for my use case. While obviously opinionated - he is leading a > workflow engine project - he's been pretty objective/fair when it comes to > pros and cons of various approaches. > > Damon > > Damon Torgerson > 425.442.3925 > > >> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:25 AM, David Bock <[email protected]> wrote: >> StonePath hasn't been updated because it was just a simple DSL on top of a >> state machine and assignment concepts; those ideas are in active use in >> dozens of back office applications I've developed over the years, but >> maintaining a thin layer on top of ActiveRecord wasn't worth the effort >> after ActiveRecord was extensively refactored. (Yes, it was dependent on >> ActiveRecord, which wasn't suitable for some, but was perfect for the >> original projects I extracted it from). >> >> StonePath as a gem is legacy, but as a set of modeling concepts it's very >> much alive. John has always denigrated state-based workflow concepts, but >> they are well-used... It is just a much different set of concepts. >> >> Sent from my iPad. Please excuse any brvity, punctuation; or spalling >> mistakes. >> >> > On Nov 22, 2013, at 3:54 AM, John Mettraux <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:16:34AM -0800, Kiran Patil wrote: >> >> >> >> The recent commit to Github shows that "Active development on ruote >> >> ceased". >> >> >> >> Do you recommend https://github.com/bokmann/stonepath ? >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > no, I cannot recommend it. It hasn't been updated in 3 years and its >> > website >> > is down. >> > >> >> Please let us know what are the best alternatives for ruote. >> > >> > You could use JRuby and jBPM http://www.jboss.org/jbpm or Activiti >> > http://www.activiti.org/ >> > >> > I am not able to tell you what is the "best alternative". >> > >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > -- >> > John Mettraux - http://lambda.io/jmettraux >> > >> > -- >> > -- >> > you received this message because you are subscribed to the "ruote users" >> > group. >> > to post : send email to [email protected] >> > to unsubscribe : send email to [email protected] >> > more options : http://groups.google.com/group/openwferu-users?hl=en >> > --- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "ruote" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> > email to [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> -- >> you received this message because you are subscribed to the "ruote users" >> group. >> to post : send email to [email protected] >> to unsubscribe : send email to [email protected] >> more options : http://groups.google.com/group/openwferu-users?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ruote" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > -- > you received this message because you are subscribed to the "ruote users" > group. > to post : send email to [email protected] > to unsubscribe : send email to [email protected] > more options : http://groups.google.com/group/openwferu-users?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ruote" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- you received this message because you are subscribed to the "ruote users" group. to post : send email to [email protected] to unsubscribe : send email to [email protected] more options : http://groups.google.com/group/openwferu-users?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ruote" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
