On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:12 PM, John Mettraux <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 01:38:28PM -0800, peterpunk wrote:
> > Hi everybody:
> >
> > We have been using Ruote for 2 and a half years now, we are happy with it
> > and we appreciate all your work done there.
> >
> > We have to decide to continue using or replace it with something else,
> but
> > there's no other workflow like route so far.
> >
> > The things that will force us to migrate is that sometimes is not stable
> > and some process got stacked and them have to be killed by console, and
> we
> > could not identify when that exactly happens, maybe you know about it or
> > how can we detect the problem easily.
>
> Hello Pedro,
>
> Sorry, many things can go wrong. I did not know about it, it's the first
> time
> you write about that. I think you can detect the problem easily: "process
> stuck". Please note that your description of the issue is very very vague
> and
> the details you give below further extend the set of things that may^H^H^H
> will go wrong.
>

Sorry about the description of the issue, but maybe there's a known issue
in some condition that I can look at it ;-)
I will provide more information ;-)


>
> > We want to do stress test before launching an app that will use Ruote as
> > orchestrator.
>
> I'd say, don't use ruote for a new application. Please read:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/openwferu-users/g0jZuWeoXOA
>
>
We have our app already integrated with Route :-( and we like it so far,
except some issues.



> > Our architecture is a distributed app with several backends orchestrated
> by
> > Ruote and using messaging with rabbit-mq, the only way to talk with Ruote
> > is with rabbit-mq.>
> > We have 3 queues, 1 for launching processes, 1 for workitems, and 1 for
> > events.
>
> > Any suggestion/tip for the stress test?
>
> Your existing system is already teaching you a lot about an ideal/desired
> performance. "From point A to point B, it takes 10s". "When there is a lot
> of
> work, it takes 25s", "when the process X is stuck, it takes ..."
>
> You need to have those measurements in your stress system too.
>
>
Thx ;-)


> > Any suggestion/tip for making rabbitmq/eventmachine working smoothly with
> > the receive (we did not have problems there, but tips are welcome)?
>
> Isolate the "receive" (no ruote involved) and measure it.
> Measure it preventively.
>
>
Good tip.


> When something goes wrong, compare bad time metrics to fair weather
> metrics.
>
> > In which case the performance can go down?
>
> Many possibilities for ruote, but for rabbit-mq, I cannot say.
>
> > What's a reasonable number of processes 100/1000/10000?
>
> If they are all idle, 100k is reasonable too. (well, depends on the
> backend).
>
> Once you have a stress test system, you can measure for 100/1000/10000 at
> will...
>
> > Sorry for all the questions.
> >
> > And thank you again for the nice work and the support!
>
>
Thanks again :-)


>
> I hope the people using ruote + RabbitMQ will chime in.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
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