They have these datasheets and STILL can't do it. ouch.
jason duhamell wrote:
I would like to hire people to move to china, I am sick of the people
building stuff not knowing what they are building. Education is a huge
problem in china and not many universities teach linux. If anybody
would like to discuss that, feel free to join in the conversation.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Spudz76 <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm positive it's not his own NDA that is being violated, he's
just resourceful and weird things happen in China. He never made
such an agreement and is not bound by the scary little grey
watermarks, and neither are we. The only people or projects at
any real risk here are whoever leaked it and broke their NDA
contract, but then Atheros would have to be smart enough to
individually tag each released PDF with an identifier that can't
be scrubbed or modified in order to trace a leak back to its
source. Considering this PDF doesn't even have the simple options
enabled for "no print" and "no cut/paste" I completely doubt they
did any of that. Also it was generated by "cairo graphics", an
open source graphics package with a PDF output generator, so it's
probably already been scrubbed or Atheros is too cheap to use real
Adobe software to generate its datasheets.
Technically most of the reverse engineering that goes on in order
for this project to exist in the first place is just as dangerous
and/or illegal. There is code from improperly packaged GPL
tarballs that still has "Broadcom Proprietary Do Not Distribute"
or at least their copyright in the headers, and
Linksys/Belkin/whoever didn't get legally kicked in the balls for it.
Basically it would cost them more to chase and enforce their NDA
than it would be worth, on a product this old. They already moved
on to the AR9xxx series, and that's what they would more likely
stomp on people for, if even.
Of course still toss in the token "We can't be involved with this
type of thing" as a good measure, but then don't negate it
completely by basically saying "but I still want these if you
email me secretly" in more or less the same sentence. You might
as well have just said thanks.
Florian Fainelli wrote:
On Friday 16 July 2010 15:05:51 jason duhamell wrote:
fuck them. open source all the way.
You can express your point of view, I do not really care, but
you do not have to impact the project in its whole by
violating your own NDA and pushing such a datasheet in a
public mailing-list.
What happens if Atheros wants to take down the site?
Think twice before you type Send please.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Florian Fainelli
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
On Friday 16 July 2010 14:59:03 Roman Yeryomin wrote:
Thanks Jason, datasheet is always valuable stuff!
Yeah especially if you are not allowed to distribute it.
Please send such stuff in private in order not to
compromise the project
with
potential legal issues.
--
Florian
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