On 04/01/16 05:40 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote:
I'd like to suggest a simpler one, which is in line with the current
naming in OpenWrt:
The SDK is what builds software for an already running system.

It doesn't have to build images, it doesn't have to be used to build
full systems, it's just what you use to compile packages for a
particular existing build of OpenWrt.

This is consistent with many examples listed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_development_kit
It also matches existing examples using embedded devices, e.g. Android
SDK, iOS SDK.

Does that clarify my thinking a little for you, and do you see, perhaps,
the value of the current toolchain+ type of SDK in addition to the kind
of SDK I think you're thinking of (That I call a 'real' SDK)?
It clarifies your thinking for me, however I don't see much value in
adopting your terminology, as it still seems to be somewhat convoluted
and non-standard to me.

My source of definition is from I now realize is non-standard usage that (some) ODMs use for their 'SDK' for firmware. From what I've seen they are typically not shipping an SDK in the sense you describe above (and which is the more standard terminology), but a system for building an entire firmware.

So there are actually three different types of things here:

1) An SDK (a system used to build software for an already existing system)
2) A firmware build system (OpenWrt buildroot, or what I've seen called either an SDK or board support package depending on who is shipping it). 3) A toolchain (prebuilt binaries used to bootstrap a build system such as 1 or 2) / the tools needed to build other things (I wouldn't consider the source for a toolchain as a toolchain itself, but as what can be used to build a toolchain; I think that's a reasonable definition although some people use the terms interchangably and don't distinguish between toolchain source and a toolchain, but I think that cretes confusion because they are actually different things and have different requirements).

I think it can be useful to have an SDK that is prebuilt binaries because of the bootstrapping problem and time cost of building, but I also see how this could be abused, and am of two minds about how to deal with the issue that having to build the toolchain for an SDK before being able use the SDK is rather painful (or at least it tests my patience; don't know about other people).

Regards,

Daniel
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