On Tue, 7 Jun 2016, Eric Schultz wrote:

Zoltan,

I'm pleased to hear there's been some movement. Does this mean that OpenWrt
is going to have releases while LEDE will not?

Considering that LEDE folks recently posted a "what's blocking the release" message, this would be extremely unlikely.

I am very interested in seeing what OpenWRT is going to be doing next. I hope that it's more than just pulling patches from LEDE. That's a perfectly legitimate thing to do, but would be rather limiting in what value OpenWRT would be providing.

And if it is the viewpoint of OpenWRT that LEDE is an experimental testbed (the way that Fedora is seen as a testbed for RHEL), then people should not be told to go away if a lede question is posted on the OpenWRT forums (something I've seen a few times so far)

David Lang

Eric

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Zoltan HERPAI <[email protected]> wrote:

Daniel Dickinson wrote:

Hi,

I had a few emails on this topic I thought better of sending, but I'm
sure I'm not the only one wondering why the remaining OpenWrt devs have
not responded to the various LEDE overtures on this mailing list.  Is it
lack of time, an unwillingness to attempt to have an honest and
reasonable dialogue in public, or something else?  I admit that for all
the furor over the fork, and complaints about LEDE lack of transparency
in the fork, I'm seeing a lot more communication from LEDE than from the
remaining devs, and am left to guess the reasons why (although with my
mechanism to help me avoid bad emails, I don't give voice to my tendency
to the less than generous suspicions, now).



Hi Daniel,

May I ask you to point to which e-mail are you referring to? We are yet to
see an official line from LEDE on what they want to see to happen in
OpenWrt (setting aside the FUD some LEDE members have shown on the list).
The IRC discussion did not happen due to being unable to work out the
timezone differences, the conversation on the mailing list did not move
forward - this is obviously an issue on our side as well.

The official line - which I should have sent out a few days ago - from the
OpenWrt team is:
----

Felix's initial comment was LEDE to become a "development environment" for
new ideas, and to keep OpenWrt as the standard distro. We have stayed away
from committing to OpenWrt trunk to keep a clean sheet according to this,
to let LEDE members cleanly and easily merge their changes. (Apologies to
all contributors for not pushing their patches so far). Luka - as no
objections but only praises were received - plans to do the proposed github
move later this week, which will help with the workflow for contributors.

What we would like is to:
- Ask the LEDE members currently maintaining targets to update their
targets,
- Ask the LEDE members to tell us about terms and wishes for reunite.
Currently there is no official word from LEDE on this, which is quite
confusing.

We will start merging the pending patches in patchwork this week to get
trunk back into a healthy state while discussions are underway. LEDE
patches will also be brought in where appropriate.

Regards,
The OpenWrt team

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