On 02/08/19 18:18, Kevin 'ldir' Darbyshire-Bryant wrote:

On 2 Aug 2019, at 16:00, Hannu Nyman <[email protected]> wrote:

Hauke Mehrtens kirjoitti 2.8.2019 klo 17.42:
On 7/23/19 3:37 PM, Petr Štetiar wrote:
Transition period for init script migration was long enough, let's
make USE_PROCD=1 default now so there's enough time to convert the
remaining services/init scripts for the next release.

Signed-off-by: Petr Štetiar <[email protected]>
---
  package/base-files/files/etc/rc.common | 113 ++++++++++---------------
  1 file changed, 47 insertions(+), 66 deletions(-)

Do you know how many packages in the package feed and the main
repository are still not using procd?

External repositories, not the package feed, will probably be affected
most, but I think we do not have to care and there were many years to
convert.

Acked-by: Hauke Mehrtens <[email protected]>

Hauke

I do not remember seeing ever a general call for converting the old packages to 
using procd. In that sense this proposed change to switch the default comes a 
bit surpise.

Quick search in the packages feed repo reveals that there are 281 instances of 
"/etc/rc.common" and only 205 instances of USE_PROCD. So, likely about 75 
packages in the packages feed repo only are using the old syntax without procd.

Has a decision been made to declare the old-style init file invalid? Will it be possible 
to still use the syntax? What is the new "override" to indicate the usage of 
the old syntax?

Or will the proposed change disable the packages using the old init file syntax 
totally?
My reading of the change is that old syntax is basically dropped.

Wish for:  We should be using procd and to that end I started looking at converting 
the ‘important to me’ packages: ddns & miniupnpd.

Real life: Documentation is confusing vs real life which is just plain 
different. See adblock startup script as an excellent example of **** that just 
isn’t documented.

I gave up and left the process feeling very angry.


KDB


I had a look at that init script and I see that more or less everything it does is documented in the wiki https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-developer/procd-init-scripts

and the example here https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-developer/procd-init-script-example


Main things missing are the boot() function and the use of EXTRA_COMMANDS and EXTRA_HELP to add more commands you can find as functions under the normal ones.

I think it should still be enough to port over the ddns as it's basically just starting and stopping an external script, but for miniupnpd you would probably have to move

all the logic from the initscript to an external helper script you call from procd, similar to what ddns package does.


Although yes I agree on the concept, procd has jails and other functionality that isn't documented anywhere.

I've seen commits for stuff but not found packages using it.


-Alberto


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