Hi Chuanhong,

On 9.01.2024 14:51, Chuanhong Guo wrote:
Hi!

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 6:52 PM John Crispin <j...@phrozen.org> wrote:
[...]
FAQ

* Why are there are 2 different flash chips?
- the idea is to make the device (almost!) unbrickable and very easy to
recover

What about a built-in JTAG probe instead of SPI-NOR+USB-UART?
It'll be actually unbrickable instead.

We were considering similar idea but that would involve additional testing and extra work on the manufacturer's side procedures (programming and testing the MCU). I believe avoiding this would speed up things and getting the device made.

The dual-flash solution with a mechanical switch seems as simple as possible in terms of required user's actions for unbricking the device and at the same time, doesn't force user to use specific tools and/or OS.

Experienced users could still use the regular JTAG connector on-board.

- NAND will hold the main loader (U-Boot) and the Linux image and will
be the default boot device
- NOR will be write-protected by default (with WP jumper available on
the board) and will hold a recovery bootloader (and other essential
data, like Wi-Fi calibration)
- a dedicated boot select switch will allow changing between NOR and NAND
[...]
* What is the purpose of the console USB-C port?
- Holtek UART to USB bridge with CDC-ACM support on USB-C makes the
device ultra easy to communicate with. No extra hardware or drivers will
be required. Android for example has CDC-ACM support enabled by default

There are several MCU-based CMSIS-DAP projects out there. They can
provide a CDC-ACM serial with a JTAG interface. It may be a bit slow if a
USB1.1 MCU is picked, but it should be enough to start a bootloader to
unbrick the device.

Here's one with USB2.0 Hi-speed interface:
https://github.com/cherry-embedded/CherryDAP
The Sipeed M0S module used costs 20CNY on Taobao
(or 2.81 USD according to google)

I like the idea, could be probably combined with some of the suggestions from Bjørn. But at least for now, let's KISS and keep these ideas for future, maybe.

--
Cheers,
Piotr


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