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On 8/23/13 8:26 PM, Evgeniy Khramtsov wrote:
> On 24.08.2013 03:21, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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>> On 8/23/13 1:55 AM, Evgeniy Khramtsov wrote:
>>> 
>>> I admit I'm total noob in all that CA/PKIX/DNSSEC stuff as it
>>> makes me sleepy as hell when I try to dive into it ;) What I'd
>>> like to have is TLS-security without any CAs at all. If we can
>>> do that with DANE/DNSSEC/ABCD, I'm in ;)
>> I think we're all in -- or we *will* be when DANE/DNSSEC is
>> widely deployed, which unfortunately won't happen for years
>> (IMHO) because of all the dependencies on making it work.
>> 
>> In the meantime, something like POSH can help:
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-miller-posh/
> 
> I read the I-D briefly. It seems like I still need CA-signed
> certfile for the HTTPS-server holding the JWK: "... the HTTPS
> retrieval mechanism relies on the chain of trust based on the
> *public* *key* *infrastructure*".

Well,  the certificate for your HTTPS service can be self-signed if
you please (PKI doesn't mean CA-issued, it just means X.509 instead of
something like PGP, bare keys, etc.).

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
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