Speaking as someone, also with many gmail contacts in his roster that I'd like to keep communicating with, I have two questions:
- Who can we reach out to at Google and nudge? Time it short to get something ready. Even if it's just to add TLS termination for gmail.com. - @server-developers: is there any way to whitelist gmail.com and all Google Apps Domains? - that way it's an operator decision if they choose to whitelist. What I mean is something like "If the SRV record points to xmpp-server.l.google.com and the alt domains, then use cleartext" Is this even possible? S. On 21 November 2013 21:51, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/21/13 12:26 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: > > With all the talk about the details of the manifesto, one thing we > > seem to mostly only mention in passing is federation with Google, > > and I'm curious to gauge the opinion of people on this list. > > > > We are going to affect a lot of users across the network on 4th > > January as we effectively disable federation with Google. Some > > will inevitably be outraged, as they are unable to speak with their > > friends and family members. Some will herald it as a step forward > > in transitioning people away from servers with poor communication > > security. > > > > Technically, as a server developer, it would be possible to > > continue to allow Google domains as an exception (this isn't > > possible with a simple white/blacklist because of Google Apps > > hosted domains). Would this be a positive or negative step to > > take? > > > > While thinking about users, let's not forget Google. If there is > > any chance of them continuing to federate in any way, pushing them > > away right now may not be our best move. > > Matthew, thank you for raising this important issue. I would be > overjoyed if Google decided to continue federation and to do so in a > secure manner. Unfortunately, we do not know their plans or intentions. > > I shall give some further thought to the matter and post again soon. > > Peter > > - -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSjnJYAAoJEOoGpJErxa2ptHYQAJ0RtiR+aGNNtH6Qlnwxs5oQ > xIXGWXmQ/moX6q+FUfK4Ik4/viuaoRxrlhVMGXtdEfmeEP9zWPg4YbcrQuwwIZ0P > nUDr6c/+iYofYUYV72oLJIGLlESHTI4AiV8uVWYG3l0tHXZ2MUXaZFRczagyRcuU > waXpT2TWErH3P8gSqCpQlgLF9YfnAYXPZj2v0QLMLXrdhitj9O1UbQGvAHToFRFX > t8MRikNDNaSjlxesJDgYcLsMUXFsg7iUyjugn21KnpAHw30ASSlohHEDDJFVuITj > x5Au3gj2LpBCPJD1gwmREzIqIrHzzZdGJwESHGtoJid6rzm+FmEofUKfY3Bk3qKZ > UoAQe3rW2DLHOqm2fVf0YENpJptj6FDy6SbKRo4PTOduJJdIBU1VqjP1oxmuQ+0w > Z4E8fiNI8zkbslyEgIIdv59Y109X4+gb3od6Gyd6shWy4msTexGXlPBe/kp79Se/ > 9Tl0S0wxJvSaDmFbcbKPAIkNrTf2h8CXTaajfe0OgBTGrHm3BiluNMlLAONz4ECW > su70A9DAQe3USZV2wMbAjCvjBCvpv6ubxalnkTmFzdBocnsq+WSVvB+x+p4m6s/k > 7vvF5YuIS2l6DkAHMjem+7bxrl6sEyYy2QkPkmwFOtZe1obmRnR0EKVb4slwNRSN > T/4mfX91zQwwqIdKTDC1 > =G+EA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Simon Tennant | buddycloud.com | +49 17 8545 0880 | office hours: goo.gl/tQgxP
