-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/2014 05:52 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Wild <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > On 18 January 2014 21:50, Daniel Pocock <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> We have just enabled federated SIP for debian.org > <http://debian.org>. It is very basic, >> just a SIP proxy and TURN server. People can register and make > calls to >> each other and other federated SIP domains using TLS. There is >> no presence server or other stuff so far. > > I know this is a milestone, good work :) > >> XMPP is also on the roadmap, I would like to see it happen within >> 1-3 months at most. A lot of the work done for SIP (e.g. >> discussions > about >> naming conventions, authentication databases, TURN server, etc) > applies >> to XMPP too so there should be less effort to get XMPP now. > > Excellent news. I know there has been talk of an XMPP server on > debian.org <http://debian.org> on and off for some time, it would > be great to see this happen :) > > > I agree, I think this is great news.
+1 I am glad to see debian.org following this path! > > >> The biggest challenge is that all Debian infrastructure is run >> by volunteers: in this type of community, it is not reasonable to >> ask > them >> to support anything that will be a drain on their time. That is > why we >> started off without things like presence support in SIP. >> >> I'd be really interested to get feedback from the XMPP community, >> in particular, >> >> a) would anybody from the XMPP community would like to be >> personally involved in advising on this next stage of the >> debian.org > <http://debian.org> RTC project? > > I'd be able and willing to help with this. I'm not a Debian > developer, but I admire the project a lot and would love to > contribute in this way. I am a volunteer admin of a number of XMPP > servers already, including jabber.org <http://jabber.org>, > dukgo.com <http://dukgo.com> (DuckDuckGo's community server) and > some smaller public services. As an XMPP developer I've worked on > integrating XMPP servers with all kinds of systems. > > > I'd add that Matt serves on the XMPP Council here at the XSF, too - > he's amongst the best people you could have offering to help. > Despite having been a competitor to Matt for many years, I've no > hesitation in recommending him. I would like to add onto the praise for Matthew as either a general advisor but also in the specific case for Prosody. Prosody IMO is one of the few fully open-source XMPP servers that will come "batteries included" for your project. > > >> b) can anybody comment on which products may suit Debian's >> operational requirements? > > On discussing actual software I have to disclose that I'm a > developer of Prosody, an open-source XMPP server. I think it would > cover all your needs, but it would be helpful to know a little bit > more about them. > > > I don't know why, but I've a strange idea that suggesting M-Link > isn't going to fly... ;-) > > There's a number of good XMPP servers. Prosody is certainly one of > the best, and it's also open-source. I've personally worked on > other XMPP servers, and I find the source code reasonably easy to > jump into despite not knowing Lua. > > If I were in Debian's position, I think Matt's offer of help would > be enough to swing the decision in Prosody's favour. > > One interesting thing about Prosody is that there's an unofficial > IRC C2S module knocking around, allowing IRC clients to connect to > its MUC chatrooms. Speaking as a XMPP kind of guy, I'd be very > interested in seeing whether unifying Debians' IRC activities with > this RTC project in this way would be a possible goal. This code > needs work, but I personally would be very interested in seeing > whether we could make this happen. > again, echoing the recommendation for Prosody. please don't hesitate to ask the XSF (Dave and I are both on the board) for any help but I think you will find that the XMPP membership is going to be helpful as a default. - -- bear xmpp agitator; ops curmudgeon; generalist http://bear.im/about http://bear.im/pubkey.txt 0A93 9BA7 8203 FCBC 58A9 E8B5 9D1E 0661 8EE5 B4D8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJS2widAAoJEJ0eBmGO5bTY3fYP/2SfgC46Kqgusou4pTmBEYwd kwhuo+wBbj9WuCzapJgGpzJgatN/6unz+LmvltsXiIjfjJ1dH/Tv40X6atDNoD3u DwMwRd0yRFnztUgVCg/Zxqf98VDxV3/aA2edRp7RyPdBqCxIme8nQc5IeDnKmyV9 l/JGLLhnw+wM0E6/NPK92e5Tv0snK0zy1ust70CiEE7nmgLec/uufoWfdXVV3ZK6 jBqjQuUVIn9Df5hjNqz6rmit/kl017gAO8a9DFw5pEu5R9ZCI/RgA+mySakwPjWO itFzCvgGLY4qm/NcfZSdJN7kKKyGRHZiem/kxhGJkyPC2f2r+gAKnCbqPSnerw/o 4Y0rEv+fDtPX77MXakhr0r23L/ihjf0Irq1UH1qWoFXfneM6BY2RB8pmcO6RrbjF pqMpfnw+yarqnlg4JBOTNyKk4jPsevrGRc/3/k2jd5j6/y8Wttu2F23p41LXLxXr f2/BSaqunKynM0pyLMyFTgFBjhkrnjE0G0h0msoPndl5xujNecopJZSI+tWJ+kfe LKdR4QVyXOgFkpp/NGnUlx8TD4pyjMqXudeigCWM5QSGJ4v0uDBYD8MpQ1SaYoQ5 q17YZ9Sc+n6FGyjYbYYwSQyFINNv9Advoe1hTpgKb+VkMHI9iogMtVnPxYiOBiAj BoD2L2DpkT1l1Hw9b41z =ax8T -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
