Hi all,

This path makes sense to me.
Is there an official list of OPNFV / LFN projects for us to use?  I can use
all opnfv/* projects on github with INFO.yaml files. Will all 7 LFN
projects have a similar structure?

Thanks,
Parker

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Frank Brockners (fbrockne) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Aric,
>
>
>
> I like that suggestion – and we might consider a tiered approach:
>
>
>
> ·       Single server booking: Open to all (like what we have right now)
>
> ·       Multi-server booking: Allow only PTLs to book resources. When
> booking, you need to supply a link to the INFO file on git to authorize
> yourself as PTL.
> With other projects also moving to INFO files, that would even work for
> other projects under the roof of the LFN. At the same time, there is only
> minimal burden on UNH – all they need to check is whether the UUID of the
> requesting user matches the PTL in the INFO file.
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Frank
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.
> opnfv.org> *On Behalf Of *Aric Gardner
> *Sent:* Montag, 27. August 2018 17:11
> *To:* Parker Berberian <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Lincoln Lavoie <[email protected]>; Trevor Bramwell <
> [email protected]>; opnfv-tech-dis. <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.
> opnfv.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] #infra #laas Deciding on LaaS usage
> policy
>
>
>
> Hi Parker, Lincoln,
>
> Just a note, if we ask for a project name when booking we can turn that
> into a github url and grab that projects info file, which can inform us on
> things like project committers and project lead.
>
> example for project opnfv/releng: https://github.com/opnfv/
> releng/blob/master/INFO.yaml
>
> In this way we could limit bookings to committers, or if resources are
> indeed scarce, project leads.
>
> Regards,
>
> Aric
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Parker Berberian <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Trevor and Lincoln,
>
>
>
> I just want these points to be kept in mind:
>
> - Users can design and book 'PODs' of any size (up to a max that it TBD).
> Especially as LaaS expands beyond OPNFV, it may not be helpful to limit our
> thinking to just the Pharos spec.
>
> - a significant feature of this LaaS 2.0 release is the sharing of
> resources. We try to make it as easy as possible to have a POD owner share
> their resources with coworkers, team members, or other projects for
> integration, etc. For example, scenarios with ONAP development / testing
> happening on top of OPNFV as the VIM, it can be the case that multiple
> projects can share a POD and both get a lot of value from it. So if we want
> to limit booking on a per user / per project basis, we need to decide how
> shared resources count toward that cap.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Parker
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Lincoln Lavoie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Trevor,
>
>
>
> Does the LFN accounting system (i.e. what the dashboard performs
> authentication against) have any info tied to a user for the LFN project
> they participate in? To limit to 4 bookings per project, we'd need a source
> of truth for that.  Another approach would be to present the user with a
> "drop down" list of which project the resource is for.  What I want to
> avoid is requiring UNH-IOL to make a decision point about what a booking is
> being used for, because we don't always have 100% visibility into what
> project states are, etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Lincoln
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 3:54 PM Trevor Bramwell <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Parker,
>
> From the minutes of this week's TSC call:
> http://meetbot.opnfv.org/meetings/opnfv-meeting/2018/
> opnfv-meeting.2018-08-21-12.52.html
> they've deferred the agreement till next week.
>
> Assuming there is an agreement, and LaaS is open to all LFN members, I
> agree we will run into a scarcity of resources if we don't set some
> restrictions upon users/projects.
>
> So the question is, should this restriction be on a per-user, per-group,
> per-lfn-project basis, or some combination thereof?
>
> With 48 x86 and 14 aarch64 machines, we can have in total 8 Pharos
> compliant PODs (6 servers) booked at once (with 4 extra servers).
>
> Perhaps we restrict bookings to 1 per-user, 4 per-lfn-project, with a
> max of 2-weeks per-booking? You would have to do some calculations of
> which groups/projects a user belongs to in order to figure out when the
> quota is reached. This will also be somewhat hard as the limit might
> depend on either the number of servers in total, or the number of PODs
> and that would have to be a separate calculation
>
> I'm not sure what the answer is here, but I wanted to respond to at
> least keep the discussion rolling.
>
> Regards,
> Trevor Bramwell
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 10:58:28AM -0400, Parker Berberian wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As the release of LaaS 2.0 (info here
> > <https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/INF/LaaS+Timeline>) nears, we need to
> come
> > to a conclusion on how we are going to limit access to the Lab as a
> Service.
> >
> > Background info:
> >
> > LaaS usage is currently around 50-80%. As we open LaaS to all of LFN and
> as
> > we allow users to book multiple servers together as one "POD", we expect
> to
> > have a resource scarcity.
> >
> > We need some way of policing who is allowed to book how many machines,
> and
> > for how long.
> >
> >
> > The infra call this monday has been cancelled, and we need to try and
> come
> > to a conclusion on this soon.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Parker
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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