Hi Achim,

OK, I created PAXTIPI-47 <https://ops4j1.jira.com/browse/PAXTIPI-47> and 
PAXWEB-1128 <https://ops4j1.jira.com/browse/PAXWEB-1128> for the update. 
Would you be willing to have a look into the pull requests?

Best regards
Stephan 


Am Dienstag, 29. August 2017 23:23:23 UTC+2 schrieb Achim Nierbeck:
>
> Hi Stephan, 
>
> Technically you are correct. Create the pax-tipi projects, a release is 
> needed at lease the moment we release the pax-web project referencing that 
> version. 
> So you could also reference some snapshot versions from pax-web. 
> Regarding Jira tasks, yes it's common to create a Jira task in the pax 
> tipi project (https://ops4j1.jira.com/projects/PAXTIPI/) and also a Jira 
> task in Pax Web. 
> If you like you can reference the pax tipi one in pax web. 
>
> regards, Achim 
>
>
> 2017-08-29 7:54 GMT+02:00 Stephan Siano <[email protected] <javascript:>>:
>
>> Hi Achim,
>>
>> No problem, I was also a but busy. I found out that SPDY support was 
>> removed from tomcat 8 in the meantime, which makes the tomcat-embed-core 
>> bundle easier to build.
>>
>> How does this work technically? I need to create two projects in 
>> pax-tipi, release it and then create the changes in pax-web. The 
>> documentation in pax-tipi seems a bit sparse. Do I create a JIRA task for 
>> the Tomcat update under pax-web and also do the pax-tipi updates in there, 
>> or do I need to create a different JIRA task for that somewhere?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Stephan
>>
>> Am Samstag, 26. August 2017 08:10:23 UTC+2 schrieb Achim Nierbeck:
>>>
>>> Hi Stephan, 
>>>
>>> sorry for taking me so long, but my day job actually eats up a lot of 
>>> time right now. 
>>> A new tomcat version does require a new folder in the pax-tipi project. 
>>> Actually the main project is just a "container" holding a bunch of 
>>> sub-projects. 
>>>
>>> regarding the juli logger, what ever works best and doesn't break Pax 
>>> Web from working. 
>>> I tried to move around that in the past, but it seemed to be better to 
>>> just include the juli logger inside the tomcat bundles. 
>>>
>>> regards, Achim 
>>>
>>> 2017-08-22 9:50 GMT+02:00 Stephan Siano <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Achim,
>>>>
>>>> yes I was aware of the things done in pax-tipi. I will try this out and 
>>>> then create the required projects in there. As I understand a new tomcat 
>>>> version would require new folders in pax-tipi for the required bundles 
>>>> (next to the ones for version 8.0.14), is this correct?
>>>>
>>>> One more question: What about the org.apache.juli.logging stuff? 
>>>> pax-logging-api exports org.apache.juli.logging in version 5.5 and 6.0, 
>>>> (tipi) tomcat-embed-logging-juli exports org.apache.juli and 
>>>> org.apache.juli.logging in its own version. tomcat-embed-core and 
>>>> tomcat-embed-websocket import org.apache.juli.logging in their own version 
>>>> (currently 8.0.14), pax-web-jsp imports org.apache.juli.logging without 
>>>> version (which makes kind of sense, because if the web container is not 
>>>> tomcat, the tomcat-embed-logging-juli bundle will not be there).
>>>>
>>>> Do you have an idea how to straigthen that out? Maybe we can import 
>>>> org.apache.juli.logging without a version and rely for the pax-logging 
>>>> implementation (and not have a tomcat-embed-juli bundle in pax-tipi). The 
>>>> only class that seems to be used besides the things pax-logging emulates 
>>>> is 
>>>> org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager, which needs to be replaced somehow. 
>>>> Has anyone tried that already?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Stephan
>>>>
>>>> Am Montag, 21. August 2017 18:33:54 UTC+2 schrieb Achim Nierbeck:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, 
>>>>>
>>>>> the 6.0.x branch should stay with 8.0 version but a newer one if 
>>>>> available. 
>>>>> A minor version bump is fine with a 6.1.x (or master branch). 
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Achim 
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. btw. since Tomcat isn't OSGi ready we did some "enhancements" in 
>>>>> the Pax Tipi Project. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-08-21 15:07 GMT+02:00 Stephan Siano <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> currently the tomcat support in pax-web references tomcat 8.0.14, 
>>>>>> which is almost three years old. The current tomcat versions are 8.0.46 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> 8.5.20. The end of life for tomcat 8.0 is announced for June 30th 2018.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would it make sense to upgrade the tomcat version in pax-web-6.0x 
>>>>>> branch to tomcat 8.5, or should it remain with a more current 
>>>>>> 8.0-version 
>>>>>> and move to 8.5 only in the master branch? What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> Stephan
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