Hi Rajesh,

I'm concerned that:
- draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel does not provide a complete solution
- draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel requires the encoding from draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information, an individual draft. - draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information covers 6 different tunnel types, and required expertise from many different group. This might take some time...

Let me propose a solution: augment draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel with the information elements for CAPWAP (not the others one). This way, this draft would be a complete solution. And if people wants alternate tunnel types, this would be done in draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information

Regards, Benoit/
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Hello

I realized there was a typographical error in my response below.
Please see corrections.

Regards

Rajesh
From: Rajesh Pazhyannur <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2014 at 12:30 AM
To: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel and draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information relationship

Hi Benoit

But now I wonder: why do we have two different drafts, as opposed to a single one?

This is a good question.

[*original*] Yes, you are correct that draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel does not provide a complete solution and needs something like *draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel* to complete the solution. [corrected statement] Y/es, you are correct that draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel does not provide a complete solution and needs something like *draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information* to complete the solution. /

The best answer I have is that we wanted the keep the following two areas separate (and in different drafts)

 1. Discover and negotiation of alternate tunneling capability. These
    are  independent of specific alternate tunnel method
 2. [*original*] Definition of tunnel specific message elements. While
    draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel contains message elements for
    most of the tunneling methods defined in
    *draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel*, I had anticipated separate
    drafts for each tunneling protocol.

/[corrected] 2 Definition of tunnel specific message elements. While draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel contains message elements for most of the tunneling methods defined in *draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information* I had anticipated separate drafts for each tunneling protocol./

Finishing 1. would allow 2. to be completed separately and independently in potentially different drafts (and potentially different groups with relevant expertise). It is somewhat akin (though not identical) to separation between RFC 5415 and RFC 5416 where RFC 5415 is wireless technology independent and RFC 5416 is 802.11 specific.

Hope the above  makes sense.

Regards

Rajesh
From: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 at 11:50 AM
To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel and draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information relationship

Dear CAPWAP authors,

After the draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information presentation at the last IETF meeting, I've been wondering about the relationship between the two drafts:
- draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel provides the tunnel types
Note:this draft is currently in AD review, so close to be sent to the IESG. - draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information provides the encoding of the tunnel-specific fields.

I believe I'm correct that the draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel doesn't provide a complete solution without draft-xue-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-information?

I'm aware of the changes between version 3 and 4 (attached picture and http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel-04.txt)

But now I wonder: why do we have two different drafts, as opposed to a single one?

Regards, Benoit



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