>> Seems that in the time bikeshedding, this could have already been in
>> WGLC.  Outstanding work!
> Following process and achieving consensus is not "bike shedding".
> It's entirely inappropriate to describe it that way.

i thought he was quite polite in not calling it something much stronger.

how many operators do we need to scream in pain that this is something
we do and need standardized in a simple and clear way does it take for
the ietf purportedly ops area wg to actually listen.  and folk wonder
why ops walk away from the ietf in disgust?

we know you like radius.  oddly, we do to, but for a different purpose.

tacacs+ needs to be simply, clearly, and formally documented.  folk are
willing to do the work.  this wg is for that purpose.  can we please
move along?

randy

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