Hi Eliot,

I am definitely interested in a MUD controller RFC and would be glad to
help in its defintion. It would be nice to see some clear definition on how
to interact with a MUD controller - i.e. a YANG model such as this one
would make sense to include. Another item to consider in such an RFC would
be MUD controller discovery (maybe a DNS SRV record can be defined).

Thanks,

Ranga

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Eliot Lear <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Ranga,
> I think this makes sense for a MUD controller YANG model, but doesn't do
> well in a MUD file itself.  We stop short of that in the document, for fear
> of boiling the ocean, but I would happily do some follow-up work with you
> that would include this, if you're interested.  The model *is* structured
> so that you can "use" appropriate elements.
>
> Eliot
>
>
> On 9/20/17 4:22 AM, M. Ranganathan wrote:
>
> Hi Eliot,
>
> Attached is a proposed YANG file that defines a device to MUD association.
> May I suggest words to the following effect:
>
>       Implementations MAY choose to implement a mapping between a MUD URL
> and a device identifier. Such a mapping may be communicated to the MUD
> controller, which can then install access control rules based on a
> previously retrieved MUD file. The mapping must conform to the YANG
> specification below.
>
> How does this sound? Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Eliot Lear <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ranga,
>>
>> The way we did the early code on github was just with FreeRadius and
>> leveraging sessions which are indexed precisely by MAC address.  And so the
>> MUD Controller functionality sits next to FreeRadius through callouts.  I
>> don't think we want to get that specific in the draft, and there are others
>> who don't want to bother with Radius at all in their implementations but
>> would just assume use other control functions.  And that's fine.  In fact,
>> you could build the functionality into a DHCP server, which I did in my
>> first implementation.  So I'm not quite sure what to write.  Suggestions
>> welcome ;-)
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>> ps: thanks for kinking out the example.  Chairs, I'll submit an updated
>> draft with the example corrected.
>>
>> On 9/19/17 10:10 PM, M. Ranganathan wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> MUD profiles are globally identified by the MUD URL. Devices are
>> identified by a global Identifier (e.g. MAC address).
>>
>> In implementing this, I need to associate a specific MUD profile with a
>> specific device.
>>
>> Would the authors consider it within scope to provide some guidance on
>> this (for example a simple YANG model that provides the structure of a JSON
>> document that can give such a mapping) ?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for reading.
>>
>> Ranga.
>>
>>
>> --
>> M. Ranganathan
>>
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