On the other hand, it shouldn’t just be me.  It’d be a very small working group 
;-) If others are interested, they should speak up.

> On 30 Jul 2019, at 11:09, Eliot Lear <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi Joe,
> 
>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 23:44, Joe Clarke (jclarke) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> OpsAWG members and our Ops ADs, it was discussed in opsawg at IETF 105 that 
>> with the amount of MUD work being proposed (and discussions happening 
>> outside of opsawg) that perhaps MUD should evolve into its own WG.  Some 
>> cons to this approached were discussed (maybe it would be too heavy-weight 
>> with a charter, milestones, etc.).  However, I wanted to take this 
>> conversation to the list so we can close on it publicly.
>> 
>> Speaking as WG co-chair, I am happy to continue to support the MUD work in 
>> opsawg, but I want to make sure the WG feels compelled to work on it; and I 
>> want to make sure the full community that is interested in MUD can follow 
>> and discuss items here.  That said, it was mentioned in 105 that perhaps a 
>> bigger “on-boarding” set of work would be better served in its own WG.  I 
>> think if the scope of MUD grows beyond the definition and its extensions (as 
>> we’ve been seeing the work progress thus far) it might be better served in 
>> its own WG space.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
> 
> I think it is probably time for at least one WG to spring from OPSAWG.  We 
> didn’t really complete the agenda at the IETF, and a good reason of that was 
> MUD.  There are at least four active drafts on that one subject, one of which 
> we didn’t really talk about (bw-profile).  For me it’s a matter of what can 
> reasonably be coded, tested, and be useful for manufacturers.  In as much as 
> we can bring a bit more focus to manufacturers by offering them more of a 
> venue for discussion, the additional WG would be welcome.  On the other hand, 
> if we find that we’re not making progress, or if we progress extensions 
> quickly, we can close the WG and continue the mailing list, and move back to 
> OPSAWG.  I don’t see a MUD working group as a long term activity (famous last 
> words), but targeted more at producing the necessary for broader adoption and 
> then going out of business.
> 
> Eliot
> 
>> 
>> Joe
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