Eliot Lear <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Hi Eliot,
    >>
    >> 0) PLEASE ADOPT THIS DOCUMENT.
    >> (Also I have some other MUD related documents which await the chairs' 
attention)

    > +1, but let’s not expect a rush on approval.  Lots of work needed.

    >>
    >> As I said in the meeting, I don't really understand sbom-local.
    >> I asked this online, but let me repeat.
    >>
    >> 1) It seems that just putting coaps:///.well-known/sbom in the URI might 
work as well.
    >> If necessary, then maybe: coaps://127.0.0.1/.well-known/sbom or 
https://[::1]/.well-known/sbom
    >> CoAP does have a Content-Type for returned content, but it is true that
    >> there isn't as much negotiation by default in the form of Accept:

    > I don’t think /// is a real construct.  There are two issues.  We don’t
    > know the hostname and we don’t know the scheme.  But the MUD manager
    > does know the hostname, and we need to be provided the scheme.  There
    > is no convention for ME without a pre-existing context.  That might be
    > something to work on, but it would hav to happen in coordination with
    > the COAP and HTTP working groups, and I don’t know how big a job it
    > would be.  Thus what’s there.

okay, good point.
I think that the self-hosted SBOM is relatively unlikely.
I just don't think we should complicate the system too much to accomodate it.

    >> 2) I think that I'm interested in what the format of the sbom is than I 
am
    >> about how to get it.

    > Well, you have your choice of at least three different classes and
    > multiple encoding variants.  Nice thing about standards, eh?

:-)

    >> 3) I think that, in general, that the SBOMs will seldom be hosted on a
    >> constrained device that is capable of being described by MUD.
    >> {that is, devices that can self-host an SBOM, will tend to be servers,
    >> desktops,    etc. that are not easily described by MUD.

    > Perhaps.  I can’t say.  We’re going to need some operational
    > experience.  There are a number of use cases in the IoT field where you
    > plug in different components that require different software loads.
    > One aspect of SBOM, by the way, that hasn’t been explored is the
    > difference between software being installed and the code being placed
    > in service.  Particularly drivers and supporting user-level software.

I completely agree: same actuator platform connector to different kinds of 
"valves"
No reason why a variable gas regulator should be significantly different than
a variable water regulator.
Except for the physical mechanism they are attached to, and therefore some
parameters about how fast/slow to move things.  Why keep two kinds of spares?

    >> So I am not convinced that this is use case is reasonable.
    >>
    >> Alternative paths:
    >>
    >> a) There is also a draft,  draft-moran-suit-mud-00
    >> Strong Assertions of IoT Network Access Requirements
    >>
    >> which would provide a MUD URL as part of a Software Update process.
    >> It will be at secdispatch on Thursday.

    > How did this go?

It has been sent back to SUIT.

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Michael Richardson <[email protected]>, Sandelman Software Works
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