+Shivam, Aditya, Devang – other authors of the draft.

Thank you for reviewing the draft, Benoit!

Our intention is not to propose a fixed template for reporting exception data, 
but to provide a sample of what an IPFIX template would include while reporting 
dropped exceptions (including the new IEs).
We will definitely add a note in the draft suggesting that these are sample 
templates.

Please let us know if you have any other comments/suggestions.

Regards,
Chaitanya.

From: Benoit Claise <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, March 12, 2021 at 10:49 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Venkata Chaitanya 
Munukutla <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Requesting review & feedback - 
draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02

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Dear authors,

Next to Thomas's points, here is another one.
I see:
5.  Exception Templates



   This section presents a list of templates for reporting exceptions

   using newly proposed IEs in addition to few existing IEs.
I don't think it's a good idea to propose fixed templates in standards. IPFIX 
has been created with flexible templates in mind.
In other words, we don't want to relay the message that, in order to be 
compliant with the (future) RFC, we have to report the newly defined IPFIX 
information elements IN THE EXACT proposed templates.

Regards, Benoit
On 3/12/2021 1:31 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
wrote:
Dear authors,

Speaking as a network operator, I welcome the effort in IPFIX to improve the 
drop cause declaration better.

As described, IE89 forwardingStatus covers the following categories

forwarded
dropped
consumed

I understood that the motivation of the draft is to increase the amount of code 
points for dropped from 6-bit (according to IANA, 16 code points currently 
used) to 32-bit and support the enterprise.

From my perspective, it makes sense to support an enterprise bit for

forwarded
dropped
consumed

However, I miss a clear reason of the increase of size. I would appreciate if 
you could describe more drop causes which qualifies for the increase to 32-bit.

I would also to consider to include the existing code points from IE89 in 
forwardingExceptionCode as well to support a migration path. So a device does 
not need to export both.

Further please clarify the need of forwardingNexthopId over existing entities

IE15      ipNextHopIPv4Address
IE18      bgpNextHopIPv4Address
IE62      ipNextHopIPv6Address
IE63      bgpNextHopIPv6Address
IE47      mplsTopLabelIPv4Address

Best wishes
Thomas

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Behalf Of Venkata Chaitanya Munukutla
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:38 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [OPSAWG] Requesting review & feedback - 
draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02

WG,

We recently published a new version of the draft ( 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Ftools.ietf.org*2Fhtml*2Fdraft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02&data=04*7C01*7CThomas.Graf*40swisscom.com*7Ca4f03da8f61048936eca08d8d771d4fc*7C364e5b87c1c7420d9beec35d19b557a1*7C1*7C0*7C637496231201225710*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C1000&sdata=qL61o9f4Px*2FeA1ffRXX1zwALEIlID6WDSy*2BlE2niDSY*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!NEt6yMaO-gk!WeCxjkKWnEjBSnZHH_FIHjwdNUq9hEA26ZgGnv2doqEO2YNLlHwcVXan7BJ1lXCL$>
 ) based on review comments & feedback from IETF 109.
Please do review this draft and let us know your feedback.

--
Title         : IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) Information Elements 
Extension for Forwarding Exceptions.
Authors   : Chaitanya Munukutla
                    Shivam Vaid
                    Aditya Mahale
                    Devang Patel
Filename : draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02
Last updated: 2021-02-04
Abstract  :
   This draft proposes couple of new Forwarding exceptions related
   Information Elements (IEs) and Templates for the IP Flow Information
   Export (IPFIX) protocol.  These new Information Elements and
   Exception Template can be used to export information about any
   forwarding errors in a network.  This essential information is
   adequate to correlate packet drops to any control plane entity and
   map it to an impacted service.  Once exceptions are correlated to a
   particular entity, an action can be assigned to mitigate such
   problems essentially enabling self-driving networks.
 --

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fdatatracker.ietf.org*2Fdoc*2Fdraft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions*2F&data=04*7C01*7CThomas.Graf*40swisscom.com*7Ca4f03da8f61048936eca08d8d771d4fc*7C364e5b87c1c7420d9beec35d19b557a1*7C1*7C0*7C637496231201225710*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C1000&sdata=RG68bfLtbxSLNRrVlSNft9*2BuEt*2FsADdKyYUU51GSbfM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!NEt6yMaO-gk!WeCxjkKWnEjBSnZHH_FIHjwdNUq9hEA26ZgGnv2doqEO2YNLlHwcVXan7A7MKOxT$>

Side-by-side diff from version 00 for this draft is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-00&url2=draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.ietf.org*2Frfcdiff*3Furl1*3Ddraft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-00*26url2*3Ddraft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02&data=04*7C01*7CThomas.Graf*40swisscom.com*7Ca4f03da8f61048936eca08d8d771d4fc*7C364e5b87c1c7420d9beec35d19b557a1*7C1*7C0*7C637496231201235669*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C1000&sdata=4XCq21S1oQ7B1*2FUgt1AO7FEEPCn3ID6oIC*2FnhwjUiB4*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!NEt6yMaO-gk!WeCxjkKWnEjBSnZHH_FIHjwdNUq9hEA26ZgGnv2doqEO2YNLlHwcVXan7F9v0w3k$>

Regards,
Chaitanya.



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