Hi Hassan,

maybe not in every file, but I think it should be RECOMMENDED to put them in.

With the UNSW MUD files, we actually wanted to put them, possibly modified, 
into a repository of user-contributed MUD files.
Unfortunately, it is not clear that we are legally allowed to do that, and that 
prompted me to make the suggestion.

Grüße, Carsten


> On 22. May 2021, at 03:00, Hassan Habibi Gharakheili <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Eliot,
> 
> I find myself a bit out of context here. 
> 
> If I understood correctly, the two statements (you mentioned below) are 
> expected to be included in every published MUD profile. Right?
> 
> That makes sense to me -- happy to help.
> 
> Regards,
> Hassan
> 
> From: Eliot Lear
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 6:55 PM
> To: Carsten Bormann
> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; Hassan Habibi Gharakheili
> Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Source attribution in MUD files (RFC 8520)
> 
> Ok, I'm copying Hassan.  I can write a very quick draft to cover this.  I 
> think what we are talking about are two statements:
> Copyright: [who, when]
> License pointer: URL or "unlimited use by anyone for any reason"
> The default would be the latter.
> This would be an UPDATE to 8520, with a SHOULD for its use.
> Sound about right?
> Eliot
> On 21.05.21 09:45, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> On 2021-05-21, at 09:25, Eliot Lear <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Carson,
>>> 
>>> How about sticking it in the documentation the file is linked to?  
>> We thought about that, too.
>> However, this requires the URI to be very stable, because you wouldn’t 
>> fulfill the CC-BY otherwise.
>> Putting the attribution right inside sounds less brittle.
>> 
>>> Otherwise we should do a very short extension.  
>> I don’t know what process this WG wants for this.
>> It would also be interesting to hear whether other people have run into the 
>> issue.
>> (For one data point, the MUD profiles at 
>> https://iotanalytics.unsw.edu.au/mudprofiles 
>> <https://iotanalytics.unsw.edu.au/mudprofiles> don’t seem to have a license 
>> at all so it is a bit illegal to use them.)
>> 
>>> The issue about sticking it in the mfg-name is that it'll have UX 
>>> consequences.
>> (This suggestion was more of an application of 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law 
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law> .)
>> 
>> Grüße, Carsten
>> 
>> 
> 

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