On 3/27/14, 4:41 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 07:34:22PM -0400, John Leslie wrote:
>>
>>    The sad truth is, the IESG no longer has the spare cycles to "Just
>> say No."

responsible AD here.

I take the IETF LC input with the gravitas that's appropriate. the IESG
review occurs after the LC.

> I was on the receiving end of an IESG that simply stalled a document
> until the WG changed its approach, because of IETF concerns, so I
> disagree with that claim.  But if it is true, then we might as well
> give up.  If there's weak IETF consensus (with some strong objections)
> to a document that comes from a WG and has strong consensus inside the
> WG, the _only_ people who can say no are the IESG; and they must.
>
> Best regards,
> 
> A
> 


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