On 6/21/14 9:29 PM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> On Jun 21, 2014, at 8:36 PM, joel jaeggli <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> After some roundabout attempts at clearing the discuss on
>> draft-ietf-opsec-vpn-leakages the following text has been proposed by
>> the IESG as a note on the document. It could proceed to the rfc editor
>> queue with this text in place.  We could also adjust the document
>> accordingly, however at this point, the current position is farily hard won.
>>
>> Thoughts would be appreciated.
>>
>> joel
>> ---
>>
>> This document describes a problem of information leakage in VPN software
>> and attributes that problem to the software's inability to deal with
>> IPv6. We do not think this is an appropriate characterization of the
>> problem. It is true that when a device supports more than one address
>> family, the inability to apply policy to more than one address family on
>> that device is a defect. Despite that, inadvertent or
>> maliciously-induced information leakage may also occur due to the
>> existence of any unencrypted interface allowed on the system, including
>> the configuration of split tunnels in the VPN software itself.  While
>> there are some attacks that are unique to an IPv6 interface, the sort of
>> information leakage described by this document is a general problem that
>> is not unique to the situation of IPv6-unaware VPN software. We do not
>> think this document sufficiently describes the general issue.
> I might suggest that this text say who “we” is. Clearly, those who wrote the 
> draft, who might otherwise be described in the first person plural, must 
> disagree with that assessment.
>
> Personally, if the final sentence is the considered opinion of the IESG, I 
> would rather not publish as an RFC - a permanent archival document - a 
> description that the same RFC says is inadequate. I would rather that the 
> IESG return the document to the working group and request a replacement that 
> “sufficiently describes the general issue”.
I would hold that option out to the w.g. and the authors, Though I don't
personally think the effort to produce a document for the purpose
satisfying the IESG as a particularly worthy goal. So if the sentiment
(which as I interpret it as being the case) is that the document in
present form adresses a real problem and that it should be dealt with in
a discrete fashion rather than rolled up with the generic problem of
split tunneling then I can live with myself.


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