Hmm, ok just to keep my comment in the box it was intended.

I am learning the IETF so thank you for the feedback. My point was super down 
on earth and selfish.

Like many my time is limited. When I receive a ‘minute’, in order to save time, 
I like to short cut a long read to reach out to the conclusions and be able to 
read a clear status.

As I couldn’t find it, I asked.

If this is not in the culture of the IETF, be it.

I was not debating on how consensus is built here or what not so lets not open 
this new box.

From: Gert Doering <g...@space.net>
Date: Wednesday, 9 August 2023 at 13:27
To: tom petch <ie...@btconnect.com>
Cc: Arnaud Taddei <arnaud.tad...@broadcom.com>, Jen Linkova 
<furr...@gmail.com>, opsec WG <opsec@ietf.org>, OpSec Chairs 
<opsec-cha...@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OPSEC] OpSec@IETF117: Meeting minutes
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 10:35:10AM +0000, tom petch wrote:
> The Chairs may judge that support from six implementers weighs more
> than opposition from ten operators:-)  Such is the IETF.

Not sure if this was meant as a random example of why judging consensus
can be complicated at times - but as written, it does reflect quite well
on why operators feel that spending their time on IETF lists is a lost
cause...

Gert Doering
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