My point here, which seems to be lost on everyone, is that putting your neck out is a monetary (at least requires monetary) contribution. As for organising users together that is just a matter of good viral marketing. Fast internet is starting to spread fast anyway, with all this ADSL2 popping up. I think perhaps that better would be to get people to sign on for being part of the class action defense group as a part of running a server. I'm sure this would bring a lot of the broader civil liberties people into the fold.
Anothony Georgeo wrote: > > > */glymr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > An amusing subtext in this is that issue of social reward which came up > in discussions about how to encourage tor servers to appear. I'm > inclined to suggest that a firehose blasting would work better, find an > effective way to get more people to run tor nodes, and it goes from > victimisation to class action. > > Well, I know Roger, Nick, etc are against it but making Tor run as a > server by default may be worth more consideration (I2P does this). > Also, I've read posts about the possibility of offering better speed/etc > to clients who also operate servers, this may be the best option. > > A class-action would be the best option but I believe it would be > hard/impossible to make a class-action with operators in different > countries due in part to how each country handles class-actions (or if > they allow them at all). This would mean a class-action in Germany by > German operators and a class-action in France by French operators, etc, > etc. It may be more feasible to offer monetary help with legal defense > and fines incurred to individual operators than try to launch > class-actions in each country. > > Thoughts? > > Anogeorgeo > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All-new Yahoo! Mail > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43256/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta>- > Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.

