On 9/1/07, M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > Many times I got false certificates when connecting > https://www.nordea.fi and https://www.sampo.fi (Finnish banks). Man in > the middle attack, am I right?
very probably. (this happens from time to time, and is one of the reasons Snakes on a Tor and other such tools/scanners exist :) > Once I saw that my girlfriend approved a false certificate when logging > to her netbank, I'm glad I was there and told her to log out and > explained the situation. oops! usable security is still nearly non existent these days, hard to fault her too much... > Btw, IE7 has a new way of warning users for false / self-signed / > expired certificates. I think that this new way is better for end users > than the old pop-up. Many end users just click yes without reading the > question first. Maybe this new way is a little bit harsh for self-signed > certificates? it's also hard on certificate revocation lists. but i digress... > And yes, I know better than to use IE but many users still use it cause > they don't know better. IE should only be used with Tor in a transparent proxy configuration (like JanusVM). otherwise, the integration of various non-proxied services with browser / document handlers in win32 API leaves you vulnerable to side channels. this may be elaborated on further in the future... best regards,

