> We've generally suggested gmail because their bulk account creation > process was good. It seems this is not the case any more.
What is this bulk account creation you speak of? The session leak occurs with the non-https intro/splash/welcome screen that appears right after new account creation. It's a minor risk though, just change the entry link they have on the splash page to https, change your password/sec question and log out and back in. > This is false. I just created a gmail account via tor without > needing a phone number or any other information. Hmm, you mean "just", as in today? What exit were you using? Want to sell the account for bitcoins? Kidding :-) I'm interested in solving and documenting the technical part of this issue... > I heard that many times from differen people but I cannot creat > any gmail account without asking sms-verification about 2 or 3 > years... And tried do it many times ... as I too have tried maybe once a month for the last year or so and have never been able to create a new account. If it's possible, it would certainly benefit Tor users to know how to do so reliably. I also have access to various residential dynamic pools where I can obtain a different IP/subnet at will. It has been equally long since I've been able to reliably create a new account via them as well. It would be cool to map *.google.com to an exit and when someone here has success, post the exit to see if others can test it sucessfully. I say map, because Tor often rotates exits during the creation process time, which can only confuse things worse. > anti-ddos/spam/too-many-creations-from-a-single-ip-address detector > is tripped for tor exit nodes and requires other information. Are you referring to google search? Yes, that service pops up a message stating that with a captcha. However, I've never seen any such message appear when attempting to sign up for gmail. > I just tried, and was unsuccessful in the attempt. I had to answer > a CAPCHA (which is not a big deal) but was then confronted with a > request to receive either a text message or a phone call. Sorry - > that is a deal breaker. That is exactly what occurs for me. Fill out the one page form, I select USA as the country in the drop box, hit submit, the next page is the phone verification, at which point I select "don't want to give my phone" or another appropriate/true choice, put a little complaint/suggestion in the comment box, hit submit... and give up. It is exactly the same whether or not I supply a 'recovery' email address, which by the way is the only optional item on the form. > I have a fully anonymous email from gmail (about 1 yr old) > I have had several other accounts created at gmail previous to this > Have they changed something very recently? About a year ago it seems. This is about the ability to create new accounts TODAY, without using invites or phone verification. > Why are you using GMail, then? It is a legacy application, undergoing research for migration :) And simply having one is still useful to play with Google's other services in an integrated fashion. > The link above returns nothing. Works for me since five minutes, try kicking your Tor. *********************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to [email protected] with unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/

