I would try to benchmark the system to show where the bottleneck(s) is(are).
Probably I/O, possibly the CPU if you are using NT RAID5 instead of a
hardware solution.  If your machines aren't real servers, then the disk
controller will slow things down as well, in many PCs there is one
controller for everything, even if you have two slots for plugging devices
like hard disks.  It just flip flops between the two constantly.

At least benchmarking will help get rid of the perception that "Oracle is
slow".

Is this on NT?  If it is RAID5 implemented at the NT level, the MS SQL
Server 7 Administration Training Kit manual, p. 128 says that its
disadvantage is that is "uses system processing resources".  So you may be
overutilizing your CPU as well.

RAID5 is good for reading data, but not for writing because the parity info
has to be updated.

To avoid having to defrag or coalesce your extents, just make sure all your
extents are exactly the same size within the tablespace, and that the
extents are a multiple of your db_block_size.  There is an Oracle paper on
this concept, if you want it send me an e-mail.

I guess this isn't Oracle Enterprise Edition...

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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        From:   dana mn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        Sent:   Sunday, February 25, 2001 6:20 PM
        To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
        Subject:        Tuning, RAID5, and fragmentation


        Presuming a DBA is forced to use RAID5, what elements of tuning
become
        irrelevant? (in the sense that if you're stuck with RAID5, warts and
        all, then trying to tune X, Y, and Z would be a waste of time /
        ineffective).

        Load balancing files would be one thing.. no way to put indexes and
        tables on different disks (ditto redo log file members, etc) with
one
        massive RAID5 volume.

        What about fragmentation and coalescing? Are these still a concern
for
        tablespaces located on RAID5 volumes?

        Has anyone written an article about Oracle and "living with RAID5"?
I'm
        finding that a customer has several Oracle databases on systems with
        nothing else but RAID5 storage for everything.


        Thanks very much.

         - Dana



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